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Morning In Canada?
The Weekly Standard ^ | December 2, 2005 | Edward Morrissey

Posted on 12/02/2005 1:03:49 PM PST by RWR8189

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To: NZerFromHK
Sometimes a joke may hurt simply because it reveals a bit too true about reality.

I think you are absolutely right. That is why comedy is funny in the first place, I think. There is always a gem of truth, and that's why people laugh.

Take care, FRiend. :)

61 posted on 12/02/2005 6:31:12 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: NZerFromHK
This is from Election Canada's official tally of results.

Again.

Your link is to the percentage of votes divided by all parties, as opposed to the percentage of Canada's population, which you used as your benchmark.

Your original argument was

Basically your argument is unconvincing in the sense that immigrants comprise 26.8% of Canada's populations, but in the last election the Liberal Party and New Democratic Party combined got 62.76% of votes. Even if we suppose all immigrants vote the Left (which I suspect doesn't hold) you still have 36% of native Anglophones voting in the Left versus 31.5% voting in the Right.

Please tell us all exactly what your point is, and back it up with relevant links.

Thank you.

62 posted on 12/02/2005 6:38:16 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: proud American in Canada

Have a good sleep.

:-)


63 posted on 12/02/2005 6:39:19 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: Straight Vermonter
"If they were able to build such a coalition they would be so hampered by the neccessary concessions that they would be unable to govern from the right."

Depends what you mean by 'govern from the right'.
Even a CPC minority government would likely be able to garner enough support from relative fiscal conservatives within both the Bloc and Liberal caucuses to 'open the books' and otherwise impose far higher levels of authentic accountability to the public. Something totally opposed and deeply feared by both the current gangster regime and their professionally parasitic buddies in the NDP.

This alone would open up all sorts of common sense (conservative) possibilities.
As example, just let people find out how truly inefficient and unaccountable our tax dollar sucking, black hole of a healthcare system is and watch them start to demand legitimate and logical alternatives to the current socialist status quo.
64 posted on 12/02/2005 6:41:25 PM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: proud American in Canada; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; ...

Canada Ping to post #57.


65 posted on 12/02/2005 6:46:35 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan

You are making this assertion based on what? Unless we have a complete braskdown of vote tallies by ethnic groups and immigarnt/native born populations we can't deduce with absolute certainty what proportion of native Anglophones and immigrants voted.

However, it is possible to make educated guesses in the sense that we can make assumptions as to the proportions of native Anglophones and immigrants voted. You don't even need a calculator to assume that if you have 26.8% of immigrants on Ontario and equal proportions of native Anglophones and immigrants voted, then 26.8% of votes are from immigrants.

I have given you the optimistic figures for Anglophone conservative figures in post 30. But given the reality is that fewer immigrants in proportion bothered to vote - a fact confirmed by personal conversations with a close family friend who worked for Liberal campaigning in Toronto, it may be that 80% of votes are Anglophones', and in such case it means 38.5% of Anglophones who voted chose the Left as their choice. If up to 85% of votes are from Anglophones, then it simply means 43.5% of Anglophones voted Left versus 31.5% for the Right. Again, the poll data does not bode well for your arguments.


66 posted on 12/02/2005 6:47:00 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Alberta independentists to Canada (read: Ontario and Quebec): One hundred years is long enough)
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To: proud American in Canada

Wasn't there some good news from Canada recently, like Mr. Martin got spanked politically?
Congrats up your way.


67 posted on 12/02/2005 6:51:45 PM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: NZerFromHK
it is possible to make educated guesses

we can make assumptions

You don't even need a calculator to assume that if

a fact confirmed by personal conversations with a close family friend

it may be that 80% of votes are Anglophones', and in such case it means

If up to 85% of votes are from Anglophones, then it simply means

Again, the poll data does not bode well for your arguments
.

For some reason, I'm just not convinced by your 'fact based' argument.

68 posted on 12/02/2005 6:54:54 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: proud American in Canada; fanfan

A bit of harmless humour is fine, I do it myself, but there are people here who make fun of a country just because the particular country happens not be America.

It's annoying when non-Americans like myself are always defending America when I'm with my friends - and then to come on here and NOT find the favour returned!!


69 posted on 12/02/2005 6:56:27 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: fanfan

So you run out of counterpoints eh?

OK, let's make peace now. We both share the same goal: to see the Left defeated in Canada, and I certainly don't want to get into more intra-Right fires anymore. We both stop the spats, and let the fires stop here. Deal?


70 posted on 12/02/2005 6:58:18 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Alberta independentists to Canada (read: Ontario and Quebec): One hundred years is long enough)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
I agree, but that doesn't happen very often anymore.

We, all of us on FR, work together for Conservatism everywhere.....we support and work for each others success .

OTOH, there's always a few new spoilsports.


;-)
71 posted on 12/02/2005 7:07:06 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: mc5cents
My geography is really bad. Canada? Is that near Nova Scotia?

No, it's right next to British Columbia, which is nowhere near Spanish Colombia--which is also not near the District of Columbia.

I think there was a Peter Falk joke embedded in there, somewhere.
72 posted on 12/02/2005 7:13:34 PM PST by Das Outsider (I shaved my knuckles for THIS?)
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To: NZerFromHK
Please read my post #68 again.

Like a *gasp* liberal, you seem to be unable to back up your arguments with any facts.

I'll Wait.


73 posted on 12/02/2005 7:16:38 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan
I agree, but that doesn't happen very often anymore.

Thank God!!

74 posted on 12/02/2005 7:17:01 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: fanfan

I no longer want to drag on with this argument. To be honest, I want to make peace given what we have been through.

Let's push the spats aside, deal?


75 posted on 12/02/2005 7:22:10 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Alberta independentists to Canada (read: Ontario and Quebec): One hundred years is long enough)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
Here's a treat for you FRiend:
Watch the video clip on this webpage
After a brief into, it's St. Patrick's Day in Canada - 1985.
76 posted on 12/02/2005 7:32:25 PM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: fanfan

I agree. It takes talking to as many people as possible and making them understand if they are "not sure" of the issues. It also takes getting out the vote. What Snowyman said above I had heard before. That the Conservatives Just missed gathering quite a few more seats by a very slim margin. This time let's see that margin go way over!! It really really IS worth it.


77 posted on 12/02/2005 8:45:13 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: fanfan

thnx


78 posted on 12/02/2005 10:52:14 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: GMMAC

Thanks for that!!


79 posted on 12/03/2005 9:59:35 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: NZerFromHK; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; ...
 

To: fanfan

I no longer want to drag on with this argument. To be honest, I want to make peace given what we have been through.

Let's push the spats aside, deal?

75 posted on 12/02/2005 10:22:10 PM EST by NZerFromHK (Alberta independentists to Canada (read: Ontario and Quebec): One hundred years is long enough)
 
 
If you truly want peace, and wish to  share the same goal: to see the Left defeated in Canada, , as you said in your previous post,
 
I will need to see the following:
 
 
 1. An acknowledgment from you that you wish to bury the hatchet with ALL Canadian FReepers. That acknowledgment would be an apology posted here for all to see.
 
 2. An acknowledgment from you that, in light of past Canadian sacrifices in relation to your  homeland of Hong Kong, you will stop using words such as 'cesspool' in relation to Canada and derogatory terms and references with respect to ALL Canadians - especially conservatives.
 
3. A new tagline that does not encourage the demise of Canada.
 
I will await your reply.

80 posted on 12/03/2005 11:28:19 AM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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