Posted on 12/02/2005 12:02:45 PM PST by Stoat
IBFAA!
(in before Freeper athiests/agnostics)
Ping for later
I understand what they're saying and why they're saying it - but the Cross is something more than an international symbol of 'memorializing'. It is without question a religious symbol and is an important declaration of the nature of those who died. If anything the officers should designate how they prefer to be memorialized upon their death. A star of david on the side of the road is just as appropriate as a cross as far as the officers are concerned.
I guess I'm saying that such watered-down positions do not preserve ground - they always give ground.
These wingnuts really need to just shut up. It should be left up to the surviving family whether it is appropriate or not. Maybe a Jewish officer's family would prefer a Star of David, or such, but people who worry about this stuff are just trying to stir things up in a vain attempt to make themselves feel important.
How incredibly rude and tacky. Faith is all that's left when you die. If you haven't even the right to expression then, then you haven't the right ever. I guess that's the ACLU's point.
How many of these troopers were jews, muslims or buddhists? I'm sure the state could provide similar symbols for officers of other religions, Like a star for jews, a severed head for muslims etc etc.
"For a Jew to look at it, for a Muslim to look at it, for a Buddhist to look at it, they are not going to say that's a
neutral symbol."
Well, unless they're completely insensitive clods, they'll understand perfectly what this symbol means to the surviving family and friends. Good luck, by the way, getting people here in the Southwest to stop assembling these roadside shrines. You see them everywhere.
So what would the ACLU have us put in their place? Donuts?
Given their regard for the feelings of those most affected by their actions, it would seem like something they'd endorse.
The destruction of this organization is long overdue.
"For a Jew to look at it, for a Muslim to look at it, for a Buddhist to look at it, they are not going to say that's a
neutral symbol."
And that's why God put your head on a swivel.
Look away if ya don't like looking at it.
Or a rock "dropped mysteriously" onto the ground.
I know I'm not the only one out there would be just as likely to salute a Star of David as a cross? I'm not Jewish, but I thoroughly respect the value of a man's faith and what it means to his life. That a man gave his life to service to of his city, state, or country and that he found courage and sustenance in his faith is credit enough, and I can see the value in that in any man.
These people don't seem to get that.
Or maybe they do. I don't think you'd see this opposition to any symbol other than a cross.
See the armadillo poop on the ground next to the cross? That represents the atheist religion. See? Everybody gets a symbol so it's all good.
I'd say key it to the religion of the Trooper, or the wishes of his or her family.
It WOULD be kind of inappropriate, for example, to have a cross for a Jewish Trooper's memorial.
I totally reject the rationalization, though. A cross is a Christian symbol, no two ways about it. I just don't see a problem with that.
I've travelled all across both of our countries...many states and many provinces...NEVER, i mean NEVER have i thought about a person's religion when i see a cross on the side of the highway...NEVER.
my thoughts( when i see a cross with flowers ) are gathered around a person's death and the mourning family or friends of that said person...not christianity.
pathetic.
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