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JC Penny Pulls A Lowes-TV Ads Using "Holiday" In English Versions/Christmas(Navidad)On Univision
JC Penny TV Ads on Comcast Cable and Univision ^ | Dec 2, 2005 | self

Posted on 12/02/2005 9:59:39 AM PST by icwhatudo

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To: Fletcher J

"However, it does offend me when retailers engage in sillyness like changing the name of Christmas trees to "Holiday trees"."

Yeah, that's just stupidity. I know of no other holiday where an evergreen tree is brought inside, decorated and lit with presents under it. I don't care what religion someone is or isn't, that is a Christmas tree, plain and simple.


41 posted on 12/02/2005 1:48:15 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: icwhatudo

Lotsa folks gonna be surprised when they meet someone in the afterlife and his name isn't Jesus Holiday.


42 posted on 12/02/2005 1:52:05 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: icwhatudo

I've seen several Sears ads, TV and newspaper. There is no mention of a Holiday at all.
They simply show a blue Christmas Tree ornament.


43 posted on 12/02/2005 2:18:02 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
When I was young, everyone always said, "Merry Christmas and Happy New Year" No stores would have the nerve to sell a Christmas Tree as a holiday tree.

Would a store sell Holiday Seven-Branched Candelabrum Kits? I think not. As many people said to me Happy Thanksgiving as they said Happy Christopher Columbus day. In other words, not many.

Every Liberal knows by attacking the Christian faith with political correctness it is a direct assualt on Christian Conservatives. There is nothing good natured about it. It is a mean, spit in your face attack. Just calling it like it is.


44 posted on 12/02/2005 2:23:42 PM PST by BushCountry (They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.)
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To: Fletcher J

I will 'Ditto' your comments.
A salesclerk wishing me a "Happy Holiday" doesn't bother me.

However the Holiday Tree, Winter Holiday,etc is driving me crazy.


45 posted on 12/02/2005 2:24:45 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: notbuyingit2

Xmas (or X-mas) is an abbreviation for Christmas. It is derived from the word ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ, transliterated as Christos, which is Greek for Christ. Greek is the language in which the whole New Testament was written.

Originally, in "Xmas", X represented the Greek letter <math>\chi</math> (see chi. It was pronounced with a hard [kh], which is the first letter of Christ's name in Greek. However, because of the modern interpretations of the letter X, many people do not know this and assume that this abbreviation is meant to drop Christ from Christmas as a means of secularization or political correctness vehicle.

You are absolutely right.  found on the web:

The occasionally seen belief that the X represents the cross Christ was crucified on has no basis in fact; St Andrew's Cross is X-shaped, but Christ's cross was probably shaped like a T or a †. Indeed, X-as-chi was associated with Christ long before X-as-cross could be. The use of X as an abbreviation for cross in modern abbreviated writing (e.g. "Kings X" for "Kings Cross") may have reinforced this assumption.

In ancient Christian art <math>\chi</math> and <math>\chi\rho</math> (Chi Ro--the first two letters in Greek of Christos) are abbreviations for Christ's name. In many manuscripts of the New Testament and icons, X is an abbreviation for Christos, as is XC (the first and last letters in Greek, using the lunate sigma); compare IC for Jesus in Greek. The Oxford English Dictionary documents the use of this abbreviation back to 1551, 50 years before the first English colonists came to North America and 60 years before the King James Version of the Bible was completed. At the same time, Xian and Xianity were in frequent use as abbreviations of "Christian" and "Christianity".

The abbreviation is widely but not universally accepted; some view it as demeaning to Christ, whilst others find it helpful to use in text messages and emails to save space. Similarly,Xianity is sometimes used as the abbreviation for Christianity (although this usage is much less common than "Xmas"). This usage has extended to "xtal" for "crystal", and on florists' signs "xant" for "chrysanthemum".

In the animated television show Futurama, which is set in the 31st century, Xmas is the official name for the day formerly known as Christmas.


46 posted on 12/02/2005 2:32:13 PM PST by Lokibob (Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
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To: Vinnie

I agree.


47 posted on 12/02/2005 2:41:41 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Cowards cut and run...Marines never do!)
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To: Mulch

No listen to it again they are singing Happy Honda Days, and showing you a Honda Accord,


48 posted on 12/02/2005 3:55:58 PM PST by snowman1
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To: L98Fiero

Do you buy holiday gifts or christmas gifts?


49 posted on 12/02/2005 4:00:48 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: doug from upland
I just called the number with my concern. She tried to say they used Holiday because it was for both Thanksgiving and Christmas. A little lame, huh?

I don't know, I think I'll cut them some slack on that one.

I'm getting chided by some folks because I put my Christmas lights up 2 weeks ago and started listening to Chrismas music on Nov. 1st....

50 posted on 12/02/2005 4:08:40 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (It must suck being an Islamofascist....... they don't get Christmas presents.....)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Pennys online has:
J.C. Pennys online Ad.

51 posted on 12/02/2005 4:39:22 PM PST by skyhntr (You've never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3. (Paul F. Crickmore - test pilot).)
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To: icwhatudo

Ok so since we are boycotting all the folks who do this I have a real problem.

Where can I buy my Christmas gifts ? I think the only thing left is the 7-11.


52 posted on 12/02/2005 5:00:56 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: festus
Nope.. 7-11's site offers this:

Tune in to watch the FOX television network holiday special, Dear Santa on Friday, Dec. 9 at 8 p.m. ET. This one-hour reality show brings to life the extraordinary letters to Santa received by the U.S. Postal Service from four well-deserving children across the country. The show was created to make these letter writers’ holiday wishes come true. You won’t want to miss the dramatic stories of these children and their families. The show is sponsored by the U.S. Postal Service, 7-Eleven, Inc., and Jeep.
53 posted on 12/02/2005 5:10:32 PM PST by skyhntr (You've never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3. (Paul F. Crickmore - test pilot).)
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To: Revolting cat!

How about Huge Christmas Sale. There, isn't that simple?


54 posted on 12/02/2005 5:11:13 PM PST by jerry639
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To: festus

I don't know how people have the time to check each and every store. I went shopping today and my focus sure wasn't on what store used "holiday" or "christmas".


55 posted on 12/02/2005 5:12:37 PM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: bonfire

I'm gonna run out of places to shop. First Target, then Wal Mart, then Lands End, now JC Penney. I wonder how LL Bean is with the "Christmas" vs "Holidays" issue. ;)

It's all so confusing.


56 posted on 12/02/2005 8:07:53 PM PST by FixedandDilated
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To: FixedandDilated

You know what? I could care less! Why we are fixated on this instead of the TRUE meaning of the season, is beyond me. Our priorities are all mixed up, IMO.

btw, I just got the LLBean Catalog...."Best of the Holiday's" :)


57 posted on 12/02/2005 8:14:42 PM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: beaversmom
they had Hanukah signs, Kwanza signs, and Navidad signs but no Christmas signs.

Just like TJMaxx. I eamiled them last week but they have not replied. I called their corporate headquarters in MA and they had no answer other than the word Christmas is only for one particular group. Well, Hanukkah is for one particular group. Nothing wrong with a Hanukkah sign, what's wrong with one saying Christmas?

58 posted on 12/02/2005 8:27:19 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: FixedandDilated; bonfire
< snip > "The AFA cited 10 retailers (Kroger, Dell, Target, OfficeMax, Walgreens, Sears, Staples, Lowe's, J.C. Penney and Best Buy) for omitting Christmas in ads." < /snip >

More here:

59 posted on 12/02/2005 8:40:05 PM PST by stainlessbanner (Pick A Bale O'Cotton)
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To: festus
I think the only thing left is the 7-11.

Nope. Citgo - unless you want to support the fascist Chavez and make his holidays merry.

We're not lemmings. Shop where you want. It's just a bunch of us are tired of being taken for granted by the retailers and are doing something about it. Anyone who things this is just really about "Happy Holidays" is nuts. I think it was just the final straw this year.

60 posted on 12/02/2005 8:54:25 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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