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Allies hope to press US into climate talks
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 12/1/05 | Alister Doyle

Posted on 12/01/2005 10:18:44 PM PST by NormsRevenge

MONTREAL (Reuters) - Major U.S. allies expressed confidence on Thursday that they could persuade a reluctant Washington to consider new ways to fight global warming at a 189-nation environmental conference.

The United States, the biggest emitter of heat-trapping gases, has ruled out joining any U.N.-led talks in coming years on ways to rein in rising temperatures. Such talks are favored by many at the U.N.'s November 28-December 9 climate conference.

Host Canada and the European Union reckon they can allay U.S. fears that any discussions would inevitably lead to binding targets, opposed by Washington, which has pulled out of the U.N.'s Kyoto Protocol on curbing global warming.

"This would be the start of discussions ... that do not mean commitments to a future course," a senior Canadian official said. "We think the United States could find a way to join such discussions."

"We believe that it's possible to come up with a process, a dialogue that has something of interest for everybody," echoed Sarah Hendry, head of the British delegation which holds the European Union's rotating presidency.

Washington bluntly told the conference on Monday that it was not interested in discussing new commitments, saying it was focusing on domestic measures to brake a rise in emissions and investing heavily in clean technologies like hydrogen.

Still, Canada and the European Union hope the Montreal talks will launch a twin track -- new talks among Kyoto nations about what to do beyond 2012 and a wider set of discussions also involving developing countries and the United States.

Kyoto, by contrast, requires about 40 developed nations to cut emissions of heat-trapping gases by 5.2 percent below 1990 levels by 2008-2012. President George W. Bush pulled out in 2001, branding Kyoto an economic straitjacket.

Environmentalists said many nations were lowering expectations about any big steps to combat global warming, widely blamed on emissions from burning fossil fuels in power plants, factories and cars. The 10 hottest years since records began in the 1860s have been since 1990.

"If that's all that comes out of here then it's not enough," said Steve Sawyer, climate policy director at Greenpeace, of hopes for vague discussions on what many environmentalists call the biggest long-term threat to life on the planet.

U.N. reports say the buildup of greenhouse gases may cause catastrophic climate shifts with more powerful storms, droughts and floods. Icecaps could melt, raising sea levels and drowning coastal cities and low-lying Pacific islands.

A paper submitted by a group of 77 developing nations and China urged rich nations to consider new commitments for cutting greenhouse gases beyond 2012 and aim to complete their negotiations in 2008. It did not mention any commitments by developing nations.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allies; climate; press; talks; unitedstates

1 posted on 12/01/2005 10:18:45 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Good luck with that green/socialist/communist nonsense...


2 posted on 12/01/2005 10:19:52 PM PST by farlander
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To: NormsRevenge
"Major U.S. allies expressed..."

"...Canada and the European Union hope the..."

LOL! Allies?

3 posted on 12/01/2005 10:21:16 PM PST by CWOJackson (michael savage: the white trash alternative to talk radio)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yeah, they are used to blowing smoke up each other's butts over Kyoto why not try it with us to get rid of that nasty CO2.

Or maybe they can ask China and India first.


4 posted on 12/01/2005 10:23:17 PM PST by headstamp
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"A paper submitted by a group of 77 developing nations and China urged rich nations to consider new commitments for cutting greenhouse gases beyond 2012 and aim to complete their negotiations in 2008. It did not mention any commitments by developing nations."

There's the money paragraph right there. We ask that "rich" (developed) nations destroy their economies so we can overtake them all then maybe we will talk about cutting our own emissions.......someday.


5 posted on 12/01/2005 10:27:45 PM PST by headstamp
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To: NormsRevenge
Washington, which has pulled out of the U.N.'s Kyoto Protocol on curbing global warming.

Idiot journalist, we were never IN the Kyoto Proto-Tool.

Hello, McFly? 95-0 vote? U.S. Senate? Factchecking? Hello? Anybody?

Am I the only one here who'd like to take a stroll down to the wire-service offices and just start randomly kicking the crap out the people who work there?
6 posted on 12/01/2005 10:31:01 PM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: NormsRevenge

After IRAN gets the hell nuked out of it, we'll talk; that is if they don't solve that problem FIRST!


7 posted on 12/01/2005 10:33:52 PM PST by BobS
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To: NormsRevenge
President George W. Bush pulled out in 2001, branding Kyoto an economic straitjacket.

Think that's a falsehood - don't think we were ever "in" it, Clinton's agreement was never ratified by Congress, right?

8 posted on 12/01/2005 10:36:44 PM PST by 1066AD
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The United States, the biggest emitter of heat-trapping gases, has ruled out joining any U.N.-led talks in coming years on ways to rein in rising temperatures.

How will talking reduce heat-trapping gasses?

9 posted on 12/01/2005 10:43:56 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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Geez, "Allies," somebody's gotta feed you guys when your economies tank..


10 posted on 12/01/2005 11:30:53 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: NormsRevenge
“Icecaps could melt, raising sea levels and drowning coastal cities and low-lying Pacific islands.”

I thought that the icecaps where all melted right now. Did I miss the news on NY being under water?

And they should ban all volcanoes, there is more environmentally damaging gases released from one volcano than from all the factories on earth.
11 posted on 12/02/2005 1:55:27 AM PST by liliesgrandpa (The Republican Party simply can't do anything without that critical 100-seat Senate majority.)
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To: NormsRevenge
It looks to me like we are already doing a lot to limit greenhouse gases.


12 posted on 12/02/2005 2:03:07 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 31-69)
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