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Flight 93 Memorial Plan Replaced After Tancredo Criticism (Another Victory Against the Libs?)
The Associated Press via The Denver Channel ^ | December 1, 2005

Posted on 12/01/2005 2:52:44 PM PST by new yorker 77

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To: Jeff Head

"Someone had told me it was 44 which would then also include the terrorists, in which case I am steadfastly against it."

I agree. I am eager to find if it is 40 or 44. Again, Jeff, thank you for all you have done.......

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1516992/posts


61 posted on 12/02/2005 7:54:27 PM PST by toldyou
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To: toldyou
You are welcome my friend.

On a related note, you may be interested in my response regarding the "peace" hotsages the terrorists are threatening to kill...HERE-Post 306.

62 posted on 12/02/2005 7:58:47 PM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head; toldyou; chris_in_nj
Go here and them click on Announcements to read the Newsletter that gives details of the 'revised design':

http://www.flight93memorialproject.org/

BTW I only saw a mention of 40 chimes & 40 Maple Groves so the 4 Islamic terrorists are not included.


There was a news conference on 11/30 which the families of the heroic passengers attended.

Freeper 'Chris in NJ' is the son of one of the heroes......I am pinging him in hopes he will share his thoughts on the revised design.
63 posted on 12/02/2005 9:20:47 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (God bless America , President Bush and our brave troops!)
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Julie,

Good luck. Chris was one of the people was all for the original design.


64 posted on 12/02/2005 9:23:01 PM PST by toldyou
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To: JulieRNR21; toldyou; Squantos; meadsjn; Grampa Dave
From the Flight 93 Memorial Newsletter for November 2005, describing the redesign on the Flight 93 Memorail Site:

When talking about the tower of voices, it says:

A tower of voices heroically marks the entry to and exit from the memorial site at Route 30. Tall enough to be seen from the highway, set on a planted mound within rings of White Pine trees, the tower houses forty white wind chimes. The sounds of chimes in the wind are a living memory of the forty persons who are honored; many of whose last contact was through their voices.
When talking about the circular grove of trees, now called, "40 Memorial Groves", it says:
The memorial design commemorates the collective act of courage by the 40 passengers and crew of Flight 93 through 40 groves of Red and Sugar Maple trees in a shared, curving embrace of the Bowl's open spaces as it descends to the Sacred Ground. This feature, once called the Crescent of Embrace, is now referred to as the 40 Memorial Groves because with the addition of trees at the Bowls western edge, in the area of the Western Overlook, the Bowl shape is now expressed as a circle.
When desscribing the new design, the newsletter states:
The Flight 93 National Memorial design described in this newsletter is an evolution of the design announced two months ago. Design refinements reflect public comment during and after the competition, conversations with the Partners, the competition Stage 2 jury comments, and issues related to the General Management PLan.
I believe with this design, despite some of the continuing oppostion and interpretations on the web, that through the activism of millions of Americans around the country, we have successfully caused an alteration in the design from the original Red Crescent design, to something that is acceptable for me and mine. The Red Maples are much less pronounced and the arc does entedn around to an alomst complete circle, only nding at the crash site itself on each side. I believe this design will not be confused by future generations to be anything other than a tribute to those 40 passengers and crew who fought their terrorist hijackers and foiled their horrific plans on 911 and thuis achieved the first clear victory of Islamic terrorism on the very day they attacked our nation on our own soil.

The design has gone from something that, at least in my view, was far too obvious a similarity to an Islamic symbol, to something that someone would have to go to some extreme to try and relate to that symbol. Future generations will not do so...they will see it as a dedication to the actions and memory of the passengers and crew.

As I have said before, while I personally think that a better design could be made, this one is a much more complete circle that does not look like the Islamic crescent and is clearly memorializing the 40 passengers and crew and not the terrorists. It is something I can accept and would be willing to visit with my family...and I will.

Here is the mission stetement for this design from the newsletter and the web site:

"A common field one day. A field of honor forever. May all who visit this place remember the collective acts of courage and sacrifice of the passengers and crew, revere this hallowed ground as the final resting place of those heroes, and reflect on the power of individuals who choose to make a difference
May it be so. I intend to post this as a seperate thread. We should all continue to monitor the situation so as to hold their feet to the fire as regards this design.
65 posted on 12/03/2005 8:45:50 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: chris_in_nj
From the Flight 93 Memorial Newsletter for November 2005, describing the redesign on the Flight 93 Memorail Site:

When talking about the tower of voices, it says:

A tower of voices heroically marks the entry to and exit from the memorial site at Route 30. Tall enough to be seen from the highway, set on a planted mound within rings of White Pine trees, the tower houses forty white wind chimes. The sounds of chimes in the wind are a living memory of the forty persons who are honored; many of whose last contact was through their voices.
When talking about the circular grove of trees, now called, "40 Memorial Groves", it says:
The memorial design commemorates the collective act of courage by the 40 passengers and crew of Flight 93 through 40 groves of Red and Sugar Maple trees in a shared, curving embrace of the Bowl's open spaces as it descends to the Sacred Ground. This feature, once called the Crescent of Embrace, is now referred to as the 40 Memorial Groves because with the addition of trees at the Bowls western edge, in the area of the Western Overlook, the Bowl shape is now expressed as a circle.
When desscribing the new design, the newsletter states:
The Flight 93 National Memorial design described in this newsletter is an evolution of the design announced two months ago. Design refinements reflect public comment during and after the competition, conversations with the Partners, the competition Stage 2 jury comments, and issues related to the General Management PLan.
I believe with this design, despite some of the continuing oppostion and interpretations on the web, that through the activism of millions of Americans around the country, we have successfully caused an alteration in the design from the original Red Crescent design, to something that is acceptable for me and mine. The Red Maples are much less pronounced and the arc does entedn around to an alomst complete circle, only nding at the crash site itself on each side. I believe this design will not be confused by future generations to be anything other than a tribute to those 40 passengers and crew who fought their terrorist hijackers and foiled their horrific plans on 911 and thuis achieved the first clear victory of Islamic terrorism on the very day they attacked our nation on our own soil.

The design has gone from something that, at least in my view, was far too obvious a similarity to an Islamic symbol, to something that someone would have to go to some extreme to try and relate to that symbol. Future generations will not do so...they will see it as a dedication to the actions and memory of the passengers and crew.

As I have said before, while I personally think that a better design could be made, this one is a much more complete circle that does not look like the Islamic crescent and is clearly memorializing the 40 passengers and crew and not the terrorists. It is something I can accept and would be willing to visit with my family...and I will.

Here is the mission stetement for this design from the newsletter and the web site:

"A common field one day. A field of honor forever. May all who visit this place remember the collective acts of courage and sacrifice of the passengers and crew, revere this hallowed ground as the final resting place of those heroes, and reflect on the power of individuals who choose to make a difference
May it be so. I intend to post this as a seperate thread. We should all continue to monitor the situation so as to hold their feet to the fire as regards this design.
66 posted on 12/03/2005 8:47:32 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: toldyou

Thanks. I have already signed it.

Hope this abomination doesn't ever get built.


67 posted on 12/04/2005 8:04:59 AM PST by conservativebabe
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