This information needs to get out and become common knowledge in order to counter the criticisms of the Iraq war defeatists. Feel free to copy, paste and e-mail to your favorite blog or media outlet. Anyone who has been in our military can verify this information.
1 posted on
12/01/2005 2:47:32 PM PST by
PsyOp
To: Marine Inspector; 2Trievers; Cannoneer No. 4; neverdem; Johnny Gage; snippy_about_it; ...
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2 posted on
12/01/2005 2:51:09 PM PST by
PsyOp
(Men easily believe what they want to. – Caesar, De Bello Gallico, III, 18.)
To: PsyOp
Thanks for the information. That's why I log on to this web-site almost every day. You can get opinions everywhere, but I am more interested in the facts.
If I became delusional and went over to the dark side (liberalism), they would only let me in if I promised to avoid the facts and focus on how people feeeel.
4 posted on
12/01/2005 3:03:23 PM PST by
neocon1984
(end the idiocy of post-modernism)
To: All
5 posted on
12/01/2005 3:04:13 PM PST by
PsyOp
(Men easily believe what they want to. – Caesar, De Bello Gallico, III, 18.)
To: PsyOp
O'Reilly was whining about this last night. I wanted to throw a brick at him. He kept asking "why can we train our guys in 8 weeks, and it's taking 2 years to train the Iraqi's". Col Hunt spelled it out just as you did, but I don't think Bill got the message.
As you stated, it takes time to get competent NCO/Officer leadership, it doesn't happen overnight.
7 posted on
12/01/2005 3:14:23 PM PST by
sean327
(All men are created equal, then some become Marines!)
To: PsyOp
Good piece PsyOp- it's a keeper.
9 posted on
12/01/2005 3:25:25 PM PST by
fat city
("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
To: PsyOp
Add to that the fact that Americans have never known anything but Freedom, and we act like it, we can make decisions naturally and normally they are just now tasting that Freedom and they still have a decision process far different than ours ie "if I do this will I lose my head?"
It always amazed the Soviet Senior Officers that came to visit our Military, in my case (don't remember if it was USS Ranger or USS Kittyhawk) the visiting Admiral was floored when he learned that the average age (5,000 people) was 19 and when he saw these young Sailors towing around aircraft and handling missiles etc etc unsupervised he just couldn't believe his eyes.
Our spirit of Independence (Individuality) makes us the equivalent of 2 or more highly supervised troops and we come by it very naturally and we can train those less experienced at the same time to replace us as we progress in experience. That just isn't normal behavior for a person that has been repressed his/her entire life.
Bottom line we will be in Iraq for awhile.
To: PsyOp
Thanks for posting this. I twas quite ignorant on this info.
11 posted on
12/01/2005 3:34:38 PM PST by
jwh_Denver
(Merry Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas!)
To: PsyOp
Great post and spot on. I can attest to it...with 32 years of Military experience. I have been a trainee and a trainer!
One more serious difference...in the US, we start with a free man or free woman with a history of being free. Don't ever underestimate the value of that!
13 posted on
12/01/2005 3:49:43 PM PST by
Redleg Duke
(9/11 - "WE WILL NEVER FORGET!")
To: PsyOp
I just re-read the old sci-fi book Starship Troopers (the book, not the silly movie). It does a respectable job describing infantry training and the Psych that goes with it, albeit in a Sci-fi setting.
For a civilian hump like me, it really resonated with and informed the accuracy of your description.
14 posted on
12/01/2005 3:51:21 PM PST by
Wiseghy
(Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. – Ralph Waldo Emerson)
To: PsyOp
Good job in explaining the process.
Frankly, being ready in three years is pushing it. As you ably point out, building a military force from the ground up is one of the most difficult things to do. It's not like training burger flippers at McD's. It's a very long term project and in the meantime they are trying to fight an active, cunning and ruthless enemy at the same time. This is a tough job.
Naturally, the impatient MSM and the other Liberals think you can build anything in the time it takes to "visualize" it, much like the fantasy in a TV show. That is because most of them have never dealt with anything but words, concepts and theory and have never try to actually produce something. They are still of the opinion socialism "works" so you can see how off base they are in their thinking to start with!
19 posted on
12/01/2005 4:05:35 PM PST by
Gritty
("The one GOP congressman who did not offer to have sex with John Murtha was Jean Schmidt-Ann Coulter)
To: PsyOp
Excellent, concise explanation of the real situation!
23 posted on
12/01/2005 4:48:45 PM PST by
azemt
(5.....4.....3.....2.....1....)
To: PsyOp
This article is SO "right-on"!!! The only thing I would add is that if you want to see 12 weeks of "training' in action, go talk to one of those Jihadis who are going to Syria, crossing the boarder into Iraq, get a strap-on bomb belt or a truck packed with explosives, and pointed towards a "target". The difference between these "trained-just-in-time" stooges and a well-trained, well-rehersed, and disciplined soldiers/marines like the US (and now Iraq) have is like night and day.
I hope and pray that those who think just 12 weeks of training is all that is needed before becoming "Combat Ready" NEVER get in a position of authority!
24 posted on
12/01/2005 4:59:20 PM PST by
coldoc
To: PsyOp
Semper Fi.
See you in a few weeks.
25 posted on
12/01/2005 6:05:24 PM PST by
Marine Inspector
(Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
To: PsyOp
30 posted on
12/01/2005 10:43:57 PM PST by
PA Engineer
(Liberate America from the occupation media.)
To: PsyOp
Anyone who makes the statement, “why can’t we train the Iraqi’s after two years when it only takes six-weeks to train our guys”, as a caller stated on Sean Hannity’s radio program, is devoid of all understanding of the facts. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!
I heard that idiotic call today and wanted so much to call in, but was driving at the time and wasn't able to do so. It's a shame Sean has no military experience. If he did, he would be able to shut down this inane mantra immediately.
31 posted on
12/01/2005 11:21:25 PM PST by
jellybean
(George Allen 2008)
To: All
"Qadessiya, Iraq -- In the predawn shadows, a squad of Iraqi police officers in black ski masks and flack jackets rapped loudly on the metal gate of a walled-in compound. All around them, hundreds of other Iraqi police officers and army soldiers pounded on gates across this volatile Sunni village in northern Iraq."'Graduation' for Iraqi troops
33 posted on
12/09/2005 11:17:37 AM PST by
PsyOp
(The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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