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To: Toddsterpatriot
Ummm...they mention both rates. And they don't try to hide it, it's even on their website.

I never said they try to hide it...but those who support Fed policies also don't often mention the total CPI rate...they prefer to mention the core rate...which, IMO, understates inflation...but you don't have to believe me...look at the various Fed Bank websites...google statements by Fed governors or by Greenspan himself

I own a house and have a mortgage. Prices of houses in my area double. Does my mortgage double? No.

I don't understand your point...if prices of homes double in your area in a short time...you have a case of high housing inflation...a condition that is probably not reflected in the CPI...particularly if the housing boom is the result of low mortgage rates. I only know what's going on in my area of the country...but here housing prices still go up at ridiculous annual rates...and at the same time I see that local apartment complexes are offering all sorts of deals (free rent for the first month or two) to entice renters. I don't know the statistics but I will guarantee that, in any area of the country, average annual rent increases are nowhere close to average annual housing price increases.

Until the early 80's, the CPI did use home prices, mortgage interest rates, property taxes, and insurance and maintenance costs as the bases for measuring housing costs...then the BLS moved to imputed rental value...why?

67 posted on 12/01/2005 1:55:23 PM PST by Irontank (Let them revere nothing but religion, morality and liberty -- John Adams)
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To: Irontank
I never said they try to hide it...

No, you said it's not included. Its why the CPI does not account for food costs, energy costs.

I don't understand your point...

You said CPI does not include the price of homes and mortgage payments. Why would the rising price of the home I own change my mortgage payment?

I don't know the statistics but I will guarantee that, in any area of the country, average annual rent increases are nowhere close to average annual housing price increases.

You are correct. But if you look at the link to the secret CPI that the government doesn't talk about, you'll see that even though rents have been falling, the housing components of CPI are still rising. OER is rising.

...then the BLS moved to imputed rental value...why?

I'd have to say it is more accurate.

72 posted on 12/01/2005 2:21:39 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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