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To: DakotaGator

States certainly prevented blacks from owning guns until that little squabble of 1861-5 was settled prior to that they were believed to be able to do this.

I understand your argument that the First amendment initially was applied only to the fedgov and that the words "Congress shall..." made it different from the other amendments. But that does not appear to be the common understanding of the Courts. Those which found the 14th changed all that were conservative courts too.


51 posted on 12/01/2005 9:52:00 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
There's been a long term debate about the applicability of the 14th Amendment to all of the elements of the Bill of Rights. As we've just seen, the Justices didn't see fit to apply the federal standard found in the Fifth Amendment to the question of state takings.

The problem with this particular judge and his ruling is that he is so totally in error, and such an offensive person, that the only thing a rational person can do is simply ignore it and move on.

The legislature can certainly exercise its Second Amendment rights sufficient to satisfy any Liberal if this judge tries something even more out of line.

53 posted on 12/01/2005 9:58:32 AM PST by muawiyah (u)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I understand your argument that the First amendment initially was applied only to the fedgov and that the words "Congress shall..." made it different from the other amendments. But that does not appear to be the common understanding of the Courts. Those which found the 14th changed all that were conservative courts too.

Yes. I believe the Courts are in error and deliberately mangle the 14th Amendment as a convenience to legislate from the bench. This, along with the false doctrine of judicial review, are the basis of Courts' illegitimate power.

I don't expect people to share my opinions on this. But I do hope it causes them to stop & think as you have done.

58 posted on 12/01/2005 10:35:48 AM PST by DakotaGator
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