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To: RS
...the reality is that their dream was crushed by those conservative voters who DIDN'T support props that would have advanced their ideals because they did not come from a source they deemed "acceptable".

Or, more likely, and supported by the voting results, Conservatives did show up in force. Props 73 and 75, the most conservative of the measures, faired the best and almost passed. They passed in almost 60% of the counties. That could not have happened without a strong conservative turnout. At the same time, Arnold gave only a lukewarm endorsement for Prop 73 and alienated the union-thugs through an inept campaign thereby motivating the enemy to go to the polls in droves, resulting in defeat of all items he was associated with.

Arnold has taken leftist positions since even before being elected. He and you cannot (believably) use this election defeat as substantiation for a futher leap leftward. He has increased spending and debt beyond comprehension (and is considering even more), including the $6 billion for sham stem-cell research. He has enacted more gun control laws. His judicial appointments include fewer than 50% republican. He now has Leon Panetta advising him on how to restructure his office and appointed a rabid democrat as his chief of staff. Are you telling me that Republicans should continue to endorse this man?

102 posted on 12/01/2005 10:45:06 AM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

"Or, more likely, and supported by the voting results, Conservatives did show up in force. Props 73 and 75, the most conservative of the measures, faired the best and almost passed. They passed in almost 60% of the counties. That could not have happened without a strong conservative turnout."

Wrong. It could and did happen with a weak conservative turnout. When you look closely at the margins in those counties, what should have been 75/25 votes were 55/45.


103 posted on 12/01/2005 10:48:45 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: calcowgirl

He took leftist positions, but alienated the union-thugs, which led to his defeat -

??? was he supposed to play kissy face with the union-thugs thereby alienating the conservatives ??? Was that supposed to get him the union-thug vote ?

Don't be foolish, no matter what he did they were going to spend as much money as they could suck out of their captive members to defeat him - and Arnolds tepid support by Republicans obviously did not help him enough to overcome them.

You stress "almost" - almost means second place in a two horse race.
You actually expect him to sit around with "almost" enough support to get his plans passed ?

If the far right did not spend so much time attacking him, perhaps it would have been the union thugs that were on the "almost" side of the fence.


108 posted on 12/01/2005 11:09:30 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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