Posted on 11/30/2005 11:48:49 AM PST by WmCraven_Wk
I've got thetans.
"Science and the LaRouche youth movement? Are you one of them?"
I have no opinion of or connection to LaRouche.
That was what they said at the end of the Discovery Channel's special "The Little Ice Age." It must be true.
well. yeah. i guess if it was on tv then who can argue?
make up your mind! either we're globally warming or going into an ice age!It doesn't matter. Either way, it's all Bush's fault and Haliburton is going to make an obscene profit from it.
The only cure, in either case, is to shut down all industry everywhere (except India and China, who will refuse to go along but we can't criticize them because they aren't Europe and America) and outlaw births (except for Muslims, who get to continue having their customary 13 kids per family).
Well, you can't "brown-nose" unless you get up close.
SEE WARNING BELOW.
I am not qualified to judge the science in this article. The link to the magazine's main page http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com
shows more LaRouche info.
I imagine it is his latest publication. Back in the late 60s-early 70s he put out Fusion magazine from the Fusion Energy Foundation. Now it looks as if he is into climate. These publications look like a lot of effort goes into them.
WARNING! If you subscribe to one of his magazines, you will be placed on a list and they will call you all the time asking for donations. They will talk forever if you let them. DON'T EVER give this man your CREDIT CARD info. He has had "problems" with this before and did federal time for fraud. I was one of the lucky ones. You have been warned. Caveat emptor and all that.
In the science fiction novel Fallen Angels (and in the appendix), Larry Niven and co-authors suggest that the only reason why we haven't fallen into a full-blown ice age yet is human-influenced global warming.
As for terminal moraines, the terminal moraine from the last ice age didn't so much run down the middle of Long Island as Long Island is a terminal moraine, as are the Watchung Mountains in New Jersey. (The moraine is the pile of stuff that accumulates at the leading edge of a glacier.)
excellent map. thanks.
Some of that new "Ice Age" was all over my lawn yesterday.
What happened then and why is it Bush's fault?/sarcasm..
Funny thing is my Dad has been talking about the "next little Ice Age" for as long as I can remember.
Is he for real? Less incoming radiation is less, no matter which hemisphere you're in. Less incoming radiation means less radiation held by the oceans, which should ultimately mean cooler climes, unless I'm missing something...
"The geological requirements for an Ice Age are the presence of a large landmass around the Polar Circle and extending southward. A look at the globe, or world map, shows that those conditions exist in the Northern Hemisphere, but not in the Southern."
I think he had the map upside down. There is a large land mass around the South Pole. It is called Antartica.
The Watchung Mountains in New Jersey are Jurassic volcanic basalt left from when Africa rifted away from North America during the Pangea breakup; they are not moraines.
And that brings me to my second point: if we're 500 years past the end of the average interglacial, then we have no business trying to reduce CO2 outputs, that is, if we want to keep the planet suitable for large human populations.
Meanwhile, in an editorial, the sages of the Roanoke(VA) Times intone:
Two-mile long nail in the warming debate
Ice core analysis proves that industrial activities increase greenhouse gases and the temperature.
The Roanoke Times
The debate over global warming must move beyond whether science confirms that human activities are contributing to a change in the atmosphere and a rise in global temperature.
Analysis of a two-mile long ice core from the Antarctic should be the final nail in that debate.
Study of tiny air bubbles in the ice confirm that current levels of CO2 are higher than anything experienced at least in the last 650,000 years.
There can be no serious, reasonable doubt that this unprecedented increase is due to industrial activity that dumps billions of tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere every year.
With the start Monday of a 12-day global warming summit in Montreal, the debate must shift to real steps the nations of the world can take to reduce greenhouse emissions before it is too late.
The consequences of continuing to ignore the planet's slow-motion catastrophe are more grave than most can imagine.
"The impacts of global warming are many and serious: sea-level rise ... changes in availability of fresh water ... and the increasing incidence of extreme events -- floods, droughts, and hurricanes -- the serious consequences of which are rising to levels which invite comparison with weapons of mass destruction," said Britain's top scientist, Royal Society President Robert May.
Data from the Antarctic ice core sample, which provided an additional 210,000 years of data to that previously available, should add urgency to the Montreal gathering.
"This [data] is saying, 'Yeah, we had it right.' We can pound on the table harder and say, 'This is real,'" Richard Alley, a Penn State University expert on ice cores, told the Los Angeles Times.
Someone needs to pound on the table, loudly. The meeting in Montreal should advance the community of nations -- including Congress and the Oval Office -- beyond the weak efforts of the 1997 Kyoto Protocol.
Global warming is real. The world should face that reality and act accordingly.
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