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To: Michael.SF.
Yes, I read it. Same applies.

Are you saying that nothing has changed and such methods as described here are insufficient?

Yes. Demanding ID - not checking it, not evaluating the person, not having probable cause, but only requiring an ID - does absolutely nothing for security in this situation. It's a total waste of effort and trampling of rights to no good end.

62 posted on 11/30/2005 12:29:50 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: ctdonath2
Demanding ID - not checking it, not evaluating the person, not having probable cause, but only requiring an ID - does absolutely nothing for security in this situation. It's a total waste of effort...

Fair enough, now I understand where you were coming from. That was all I was seeking to have confirmed.

I disagree that they are not serving a purpose, but that purpose may not be clear to the person whose ID is being checked. Police, security, Secret service, customs agents are all trained to observe w/o being to overt about it.

They maybe asking for a gray haired ladies ID, but they are looking at the young man behind her, the one with a back pack, the one who is looking out of the window, the one who just pulled his cap a bit lower, the one who is starting to perspire the longer the cop stands there. The one who may require a closer look.

People have mentioned profiling, of course they do it, they can't just walk on a bus and shout:

"OK, all men ages 20-25 with dark hair and brown eyes, I want to see your ID."

They do need to show some discretion.

79 posted on 11/30/2005 12:45:55 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Paris Hilton - Living proof that one need not be poor to be White Trash)
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