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Bush backs visas for illegal immigrants
theage.com ^ | November 30, 2005 | Michael Gawenda

Posted on 11/29/2005 7:21:12 PM PST by 11th_VA

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To: Mr. Mojo

He knows the left hates him and he alientates his own base, I really don't know what else to think.


41 posted on 11/29/2005 7:56:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: EternalVigilance
And the desire to secure our borders cuts across party and ideological lines

True ... but how to deal with it and finding a solution ... not everyone agrees

42 posted on 11/29/2005 7:59:32 PM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Uncle Vlad
Why is it if there's an outbreak of mad cow disease somewhere, within five minutes, we know the source, the cow's herd, family tree, and the name of the date the cow took to the prom. But when it comes to illegal aliens...

The answer is to give every illegal alien a cow when they cross the border.

43 posted on 11/29/2005 8:00:04 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Mo1
Congress writes and passes Bills and Legislation .. Not the President

The president doesn't need any bills passed to secure the border - it's his constitutional duty.

If he can't fulfill his constitutional duty due to lack of funds, then why hasn't he asked congress to allocate more. He asked for $20 billion for Africa.

44 posted on 11/29/2005 8:03:45 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta

"If he can't fulfill his constitutional duty due to lack of funds, then why hasn't he asked congress to allocate more"


I suppose you missed this part of his speech

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/11/20051128-7.html

Since I've taken office we've increased funding for border security by 60 percent. Our border agents have used that funding to apprehend and send home more than 4.5 million people coming into our country illegally, including more than 350,000 with criminal records. Our Customs and Border Protection agents can be proud of the work that you're doing. You're taking control of this border. And we have more work to do, and that's what I want to talk to you about today. We're going to build on the progress we have made.






Fact Sheet: Securing America Through Immigration Reform
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/11/20051128-3.html


46 posted on 11/29/2005 8:09:59 PM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Mo1
"...but how to deal with it and finding a solution..."

Is it really that difficult to figure out. The only difficult part is getting someone to slap El Busho across his face to wake him up out of his stupor on this issue.
47 posted on 11/29/2005 8:11:45 PM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: 11th_VA

I see someone up the number from 11 million to 13 million..
the true number is nearly 34 million (I bet)


48 posted on 11/29/2005 8:12:56 PM PST by no-to-illegals
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To: Mo1
I suppose you missed this part of his speech

I didn't miss it - it's just typical politician doublespeak.

49 posted on 11/29/2005 8:14:23 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: TonyRo76

"I observe with dismay that "Stuffed Suits, Inc." (the GOP business lobby) cares only about profit and does not act in America's best interest."


There's nothing patriotic about screwing your countrymen for a buck.


50 posted on 11/29/2005 8:14:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: 11th_VA

this type of talk from our President is going to cause more illegals to move toward crossing the border...Mr. President please, remember you represent the American people not the Mexicans.


51 posted on 11/29/2005 8:15:44 PM PST by no-to-illegals
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To: Mulch

"Is it really that difficult to figure out"



Well .. you might want to ask the bleeding heart liberals that are blocking almost everything that is tried

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/11/20051128-7.html

We need to address the cycle of endless litigation that clogs our immigration courts and delays justice for immigrants. Some federal courts are now burdened with more than six times as many immigration appeals as they had just a few years ago. A panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco declared that illegal immigrants have a right to relitigate before an immigration court as many times as they want. This decision obviously would encourage illegal immigrants who have been deported to sneak back into the country and to re-argue their case. Congress needs to put an end to this cycle of needless litigation and deliver reforms necessary to help us secure this border. (Applause.)


52 posted on 11/29/2005 8:17:25 PM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: JeffAtlanta
I didn't miss it - it's just typical politician doublespeak

So basically .. regardless of what he says ... you aren't going to listen nor believe

53 posted on 11/29/2005 8:18:57 PM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Mo1
Well .. you might want to ask the bleeding heart liberals that are blocking almost everything that is tried

No, blocking them from ever getting into the country illegal in the first place is what needs to be tried. Bush does not want to do this.

By trying to shift the subject to immigrants that are already here, he gets to pass the buck and act like an innocent bystander.

54 posted on 11/29/2005 8:20:00 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Mulch
no matter who you vote for, the illegals win. Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
56 posted on 11/29/2005 8:20:46 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: Mo1
So basically .. regardless of what he says ... you aren't going to listen nor believe

Exactly - I look at actions not words. I'm sure we could all pull up some Bill Clinton speeches where he praised what a good job he did too. That wouldn't make it true because I could look at his actions and see that he is just appeasing the sheep.

57 posted on 11/29/2005 8:21:36 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta
No, blocking them from ever getting into the country illegal in the first place is what needs to be tried. Bush does not want to do this.

I could be wrong .. but wasn't there a fence in San Diego that the bleeding heart liberals have been trying to block in the courts??

58 posted on 11/29/2005 8:23:46 PM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: 11th_VA

This is shocking.....selective pampering of Mexican illegals is ridiculous.


59 posted on 11/29/2005 8:23:55 PM PST by indcons (Don't question either my intelligence or my ability; I have none.)
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To: JeffAtlanta

LOL....still laughing.


60 posted on 11/29/2005 8:26:18 PM PST by indcons (Don't question either my intelligence or my ability; I have none.)
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