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To: Zetman
In your dreams. Schismatics like this gambit--you schismatics, Protestants originated as johnny-come-latelys, teaching doctrines unheard of for a millennium and, when challenged about your recent innovations, you respond by telling your challengers that they are just as new (did not exist until you came into being) as you are.

Nice try, it works only if one already starts from your premises. So it will work if you are talking to yourself. As an argument toward someone who disagrees with you, it's useless. You're going to have to make a case for the validity of your premises, not merely assert them.

148 posted on 11/29/2005 5:14:39 PM PST by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

"In your dreams. Schismatics like this gambit--you schismatics, Protestants originated as johnny-come-latelys, teaching doctrines unheard of for a millennium and, when challenged about your recent innovations, you respond by telling your challengers that they are just as new (did not exist until you came into being) as you are.
Nice try, it works only if one already starts from your premises. So it will work if you are talking to yourself. As an argument toward someone who disagrees with you, it's useless. You're going to have to make a case for the validity of your premises, not merely assert them."

I am somewhat confused by your response. I don't recall saying anything about "new doctrines" in either Catholic or non-Catholic churches. What premise of mine are you talking about (this is why it helps to copy in the text of the poster that you are reponding to)??

I am not sure what you are talking about when you refer to my words as being those which are used by "schismatics". The jist of my words were I have heard that there are other non-Catholic "mainstream" Christian churches who also have concepts similar to purgatory, although they do not call it that. My point being that if what I have heard is correct, the Catholic church is not alone in it's belief of a purgatory-like place/state. In what way is that "schismatic"?? I simply said that the Catholic church does not have a corner on the purgatory market. Perhaps you misread what I wrote (or maybe I miswrote what you read!!).


207 posted on 11/29/2005 5:58:14 PM PST by Zetman (This secret to simple and inexpensive cold fusion intentionally left blank.)
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