Posted on 11/29/2005 8:06:45 AM PST by Salo
What are you guys, Chinese sympathizers? Can't they get a free copy of this Red Hawk Linux if they want? Isn't that the license that Red Hawk has to use? It's not optional, is it? Red Hawk can't say no, you can't have that if I want a copy can they? Don't they have to give a copy to anyone who wants a copy?
Isn't that how Richard Stallman's GPL license works? Anybody that creates anything with it and distributes it has to also give it away, FOR FREE, to anyone right? Including the Chinese government, who can then rename it Red Flag, right? Isn't that what they do with their free copies of Linux over there? Rename them Red Flag?
Or are you saying they can't do that with this Red Hawk Linux? If not, explain why. And drop the crybaby personal attacks for once. I don't think you can.
why should we take some loser who hawks Microsoft like it's the 2nd coming seriously?
Are you mumbling something, or can you even form an answer? I didn't think so.
it's on you if you can't read and comprehend, not me to figure it out for you Mr. Gates....
Hiding firmly under your rock. Like normal.
What are you guys, Chinese sympathizers?
Physician, heal thyself.
And drop the crybaby personal attacks for once.
Q - "Don't they have to give a copy to anyone who wants a copy?"
A - "No. The GPL gives him permission to make and redistribute copies of the program if he chooses to do so. He also has the right not to redistribute the program, if that is what he chooses." - http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#CanIDemandACopy
"The GPL does not require you to release your modified version. You are free to make modifications and use them privately, without ever releasing them. This applies to organizations (including companies), too; an organization can make a modified version and use it internally without ever releasing it outside the organization." - http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLRequireSourcePostedPublic
Another verbal defecation. Read before spouting hysterically, please.
You were much kinder in your reply to him than I would have been.
Don't want to scare him off...then what would we do for fun?
LOL, you're so hypnotized you don't even know what you're talking about. Or worse.
The terms of the license are, if you "redistribute", you have to release the source code to anyone that asks for it. ANYONE. Read the terms of the license itself, Section 3, I guessed you missed it while you were gobbling up the propoganda (FAQ).
http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl.html
That's why all these Red Hat knock offs exist. They have to give their source code away since they are selling the software, and alls these copies spring up. Talk about the bottom of the food chain, a knockoff of a knockoff.
But the Chicoms rename theirs "Red Flag" and use it to run their supercomputers, and who could blame them, they get their copies of GNU Linux for free, practically straight from the US DoD now it sounds like.
And here you are, unable to even properly spout the terms of the license they do this with, but still trying to defend it.
Exactly. If you redistribute it. If you do not, you are under no obligation to give any source code to anyone. Ergo, if I wish to create my own Linux distro to use in a simulation, I don't have to give it to, show it to, sell it to, lend it to, or rent it to anyone. Show me, in a cut-and-pasted quote, with a link (rather than your typical whiny lying) where it says otherwise. You can't and you know it, Buzzy. Give it up before you sound even more foolish.
"And here you are, unable to even properly spout the terms of the license they do this with, but still trying to defend it."
Nice try, but you're still a moron. There was no "spouting"...my irrefutable proof was cut and pasted directly from the FSF's site, the same one from which you posted a general link and gave me a vague excuse about section 3, which had nothing to do with anything.
If you have a problem with FSF's interpretation of GPL, maybe you should take it up with them. They know more way more about it than you do, despite your weak protests to the contrary.
Wanna try again, missy?
LOL, that was the actual license itself, did you not even know? What did you think it was? "A general link", LMAOOO! You don't even know what the actual license looks like, do you. And yet you call names? It really just doesn't get any more pathetic. "A general link"! HAHAHA is that not hilarious or what!
I'd call it a Flaming Death all right, a definite Crash and Burn.
" LOL, that was the actual license itself, did you not even know?"
Well, no sh**, Sherlock! You just posted a general link to the license itself, not any specific part of it,and said, "See? Told you so".
So, what part of the six-paragraph Section 3 proves whatever it is you're saying? Are you unable to cut and paste what you believed to be proof of your silly little statement?
Frankly, I'd be fascinated to find out what part of those paragraphs you interpret as meaning, "You must distribute your modified source code to anyone who asks for it."
"HAHAHA is that not hilarious or what!"
You're right. It's not hilarious.
In fact, your whole post was rather banal, and we're all slightly dumber for having read it.
Instead of responding to what I said, you found some perverted fixation with the word "General Link", so much so that you said it multiple times. Maybe you thought General Link was a character in a war movie. I don't know. It's hard to tell how (or if) your mind works (but I'm visualizing a fat little hamster in an exercise wheel, and I think I'm pretty close).
Anyway, I guess cutting and pasting, along with the smallest amount of command line work, is beyond your feeble comprehension. Typical. Or, maybe you didn't find anything to cut and paste?
I'd say that was the case. ;)
If I'm wrong, you could always try again...what part of Section 3 says you must distribute your modified software? I'll take a non-answer to mean, "I have no clue, I'm just making stuff up as I go along".
Heck, I'll probably take ANY answer of yours to mean,"I have no clue, I'm just making stuff up as I go along" .
"you didn't even recognize my link as the actual license,"
Keep believing that, as if it would make any difference if I hadn't. It took me to the same site I got my links from. Just because I didn't say, "Hey, that's the GPL license" doesn't mean that I didn't recognize it. That's a straw man, besides.
I'll repeat, but you won't answer because you can't, that you could prove your point by cutting and pasting your proof from that license in here. But you won't, because you have none. It's easier to spout off and cover your tracks with smoke and mirrors than to find out the facts to begin with.
"I'm not about to waste any more time trying to educate the impossibly ignorant"
Ok. As I said before, I'll take that to mean that you have no clue what you're talking about and are just making things up as you go along. Knowing what an arrogant ass you are, you'd jump at the chance to actually prove something if you could. But you can't, so you blow it off. If I'm wrong, prove it.
Not only that, it's VERY telling that you suddenly chose to "not waste any more time" right after I challenged you to back up your statement with facts. You're spinning in little circles again. Why won't you answer that question?
But it's not surprising in the least. You're interested in huffing and puffing, not discussion. Classic, unloved, attention deprived troll. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
Due to that and the extremely large number of inaccurate and idiotic posts you've presented to this point, you are no longer relevant. Thanks and have a nice day.
"What are you guys, Chinese sympathizers?"
No thats Billg. (pronounced bilge)
The guy who lets Chinese communists see his source code, but not Americans. That and gives his OS to them for free.
"why should we take some loser who hawks Microsoft like it's the 2nd coming seriously?"
GE is still buay wiping Bill Gates first coming off his chin.
;)
Oh I know.
And I won't converse with GE anymore either.
I will get a combination of "You're a chinese sympathizer" or "You don't know what you are talking about" or "You're hiding under your rock as usual (when I ignore him completely)". Instead I would rather watch him get taken apart on every thread by people that aren't normally on these type of threads.
It's great.
I am sure he has his voodoo doll of Steve Jobs completely torn apart by now :)
bump
Obvious lie, worse is you know it is. Linux is what they get for free, to do with whatever they want, include name it "Red Flag" and resell it without a dime back to the U.S.
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