Posted on 11/29/2005 3:13:23 AM PST by STD
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Do you think any body who has had a loved one, or been killed by islamic extremist really give a rats @$$ about trading partners, or geographics?"
The geography is significant because of the large number of nuclear warheads it would take.
My family has lost members in every American war back to the 1776 except 1812 and Vietnam (we had people in Vietnam but they didn't die) and I understand this reaction - my grandmother has told me about the things they said and the songs they sang about Germans in WW1 and WW2 and I've seen the posters put up about the Japanese.
And I also get frequently accused of not being emotional enough and being overly analytical, although usually that's by liberals who don't their junk science debunked. So my tone here is probably part of the probelm.
But my concern and the reason I bother with debates like this is I want the conservative voice to be heard in a way that will have some impact. Considering that we didn't try to exterminate the German or Japanese populations in WW2 we shouldn't even have that on the table now if we want to be taken seriously.
Ann Coulter described the lies told about conservatives " I would say it's really all the same lie, which is conservatives are either stupid or scarily weird and therefore you don't have to deal with their ideas, just set them aside" - well talking about or even joking about genocide as a solution plays into those lies.
I have family that visits Bali, in Indonesia and they tell me that the country is under siege from Islamic radicals who hate them for being too western and too democratic instead of living word for word by the Koran. If the conservative response isn't about helping them fight the terrorists but instead is about exterminating the whole country (which I assume would include the 20,000,000 Christians) then why would anybody outside the conservative base listen to us?
Go peddle your DUmmy bilge elsewhere.
It's interesting to see you an idiot in two completely unrelated realms--suporting both legal pot use AND genocide of helpless populations!
My, what's next? Support of the flat-earth hypothesis? Marxist dialectic? Bush lied? Inquiring minds want to know!
Apologies! That was supposed to be directed toward "Jovial" not you!
Then you should have corrected your mistake by *pinging me to the original reply.
It's interesting to see you an idiot in two completely unrelated realms--suporting both legal pot use AND genocide of helpless populations!
I support neither, as you well know, and I challenge you to find one post of mine that does.
As far as the Drug Wars are concerned, I'm not a no-holds barred libertarian. I do support focusing resources (and jail cells for dealers of them) on those drugs that demonstrably do the most harm: meth amphetamine, heroin, crack cocaine, to name the most egregious. Jailing pot smokers in the face of the true devastation caused by the aforementioned drugs seems to me to be absurd. That is not a call for the legalization of anything, and you should really stop saying so. You make yourself look ridiculous.
As to the War on Terror, I support nothing less than victory, World War II style. Smarmy little twits can twist that into anything they wish, just as they consistently moan and weep and gnash their teeth over our military actions in Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki every year. The bottom line is that political considerations should be subordinate to military objectives instead of the other way around, period. That's hardly "genocide," except in the thinking that comes out of the fever swamps of the left.
what's next? Support of the flat-earth hypothesis? Marxist dialectic? Bush lied? Inquiring minds want to know!
Now you're just babbling. I'm curious: when you go back and read what you've actually posted do your cheeks blush with embarrassment? I know mine would were I the author of such drivel.
"I don't believe one word of that ignorant rant--especially the part about having had family members who "served" since 1776."
It's not a big family, we've just lived in the same place for a long time.
My point though was that there have been losses in every generation and America has never resorted to extermination as a response and we don't need to now. In fact, even suggesting that in a serious sounding post serves to marginalize rather than doing anything helpful.
My uncle Ford , on my Mother's side, was an aviator in WW2 and was shot down fairly early and spent the war in a Nazi prison camp... He hated the Japanese til the day died because the prisoners there had it worse than he did. He thought we shouldn't be buying Japanese cars =that it was a betrayal of the men who served in WW2.
Think about how horrible the things done by the Japanese and the Nazis were - we didn't sacrifice our morals then by trying to exterminate the civilian populations - we don't need to now either. And the more conservatives that suggest such a thing, the less we are gonna get listened to.
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