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To: Casloy
AA on a INDIVIDUAL basis, may or may not be for everyone; however, there is no other recovery method that has ever had any widespread success and this is what sets AA apart, it's universal success. The only other thing that has historically worked is intense religious conversion; however, this is essentially producing the same spiritual awakening that AA does.

In the Big Book there is a recounting of Rowland H.'s visit to Carl Jung, Jung told him that, "Here and there, once in a while, alcoholics have had what are called vital spiritual experiences. To me these occurrences are phenomena. They appear to be in the nature of huge emotional displacements and rearrangements. Ideas, emotions, and attitudes which were once the guiding forces of the lives of these men are suddenly cast to one side, and a completely new set of conceptions and motives begin to dominate them." What AA has done is essentially converted "here and there, once in a while" into everywhere, all of the time and in so doing has turned a "phenomena" into an everyday occurrence that has been experienced by millions.

71 posted on 11/29/2005 12:17:44 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

I don't disagree with you one bit. I think his issue was people saying you can't possibly stop drinking without AA. I agree it is rare, but people have used other spiritual means of achieving the same thing. In the end, I don't think not drinking is the only issue. AA is about living, not just about abstaining from alcohol.


73 posted on 11/29/2005 12:29:15 PM PST by Casloy
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