[Graybeard58]

Many of us just plain quit after living through the train wreck of a life that could be achieved by using alchohol.

I can agree with that but I also believe that if you are an alcoholic and successfully quit, then you are working a "program" of your own design.

Whatever works.

[teddyballgame]

Enjoying the recovery posts. Sober 8 years. Just spend the Thanksgiving week-end with a boyhood friend who is newly sober. He was suicidal less than six months ago. He is now 4 months sober and he returned from the mid-west to home (East Coast) to make ammnends. Truly a miracle.