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1 posted on 11/28/2005 5:39:49 PM PST by MRMEAN
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To: MRMEAN

How about enforcement of the laws we have before promising new laws they don't intend to enforce?


2 posted on 11/28/2005 5:42:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: MRMEAN

WOW! This is an editorial in the Christian Science Monitor, I'm amazed! They are right in every particular, I'll add.


3 posted on 11/28/2005 5:43:04 PM PST by jocon307
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To: MRMEAN
A nation that long tolerates such open lawlessness in both illegal entries and hiring can't claim to be a beacon of virtue to the world. Nor is it safe against terrorism.

Well, a nice Guest Worker program would fix all that, wouldn't it? /s

4 posted on 11/28/2005 5:44:40 PM PST by Cagey (Some men are Baptists, others Catholics, my father was an Oldsmobile man.)
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To: MRMEAN

I don't believe a damn thing from the hacks in DC until I see serious enforcement. Both parties stink on immigration. They live it up in DC while the nation is inundated by a tidal wave from the 3rd world. Ethnic pressure groups and the cheap labor lobby have George Bush's ear


5 posted on 11/28/2005 5:46:46 PM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: DTogo; Itzlzha; Stellar Dendrite

"Without first showing the border can be secured enough to drastically reduce illegal migration, the president's other priorities such as a "guest worker" program should not be implemented."

I've noticed that the CSM seems to be very much in the right on the border and illegal immigration issues.


6 posted on 11/28/2005 5:47:12 PM PST by flashbunny (To err is human. But to really screw something up, have the government try to fix it.)
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To: MRMEAN
And this week, the president is giving speeches in Texas and Arizona that will appear to show he's now serious about stemming the increasing flow of unlawful migration into the US.

No, this week he's giving speeches to provide amnesty to illegals, but using any other word for 'amnesty' that his speech-writers can find.

7 posted on 11/28/2005 5:47:36 PM PST by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: MRMEAN

Let the GOP propose a union with Mexico - will that win votes?


8 posted on 11/28/2005 5:48:00 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


10 posted on 11/28/2005 5:56:20 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: MRMEAN

first Mexican customs facility in the United States
http://www.insidebayarea.com/businessnews/ci_3254225 ^ | 11/27/2005 | Garance Burke


Posted on 11/27/2005 4:42:00 PM PST by cope85


New Kansas City customs port may expedite trade with Mexico Region hopes to capitalize on growing cross-border trade By Garance Burke, Associated Press

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Shipping American cars and electronics to Mexico may become much cheaper and faster early next year when the first Mexican customs facility in the United States is expected to open in the heart of the Midwest. It may be nearly 1,000 miles to the border from Kansas City, but this industrial hub will soon start building an inland port that would whisk thousands of trucks through export inspections and shoot them back out onto the North American Free Trade Agreement corridor, where they can roll through the border without further delays.

The $3 million facility, which would be the first foreign customs office inside the United States, will likely be approved by the U.S. and Mexican governments by year's end and is scheduled to open next May, said Chris Gutierrez, president of Kansas City SmartPort Inc., a nonprofit organization promoting the project.

Planners say manufacturing industries in the upper Midwest and Canada would be the first to benefit from the new customs operation, which they believe could expand to handle cargo from across the country.

Mexican government officials confirmed the two countries had agreed on the overall proposal, though both nations said finer points of the agreement were still being negotiated by customs officials — including security concerns and the legal standing of Mexican customs officials working in the United States.

After a visit to Kansas City in May, U.S. Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Robert C. Bonner said the pilot proposal was "bold and imaginative" and could transform Kansas City into a "major new trade link" that would fit well with new border security initiatives to pre-approve cargo.

"We've always had the railroad and the river and the airlines and the roads, but this will open up tremendous new business opportunities for Kansas City," said Kansas City councilwoman Bonnie Sue Cooper, who said she proposed the idea to the Mexican Finance Minister Francisco Gil Diaz last year.

In the 1940s, Kansas City — at the intersection of two major interstate highways along the Missouri River — was one of the country's largest rail distribution centers.

Now plans are to fill a gravel lot that once held cattle with a big-box building that will process long lines of big rigs packed with goods for export to Mexico.

Providing the containers stay electronically sealed once they're inspected, the trucks will be free to cross the border and avoid further inspections, resulting in efficiencies and cost savings.

"Kansas City is the geographical

heart of the United States and of the entire NAFTA region," said Everardo Suarez, Mexican consul general in Kansas City. Once the agreement is completed, Kansas City would essentially function like a Mexican port.

The transition to the global economy comes just in time: since the city's stockyards and airline industry declined, it has been struggling to rebuild itself as a leader in global logistics.

"I think this project would go a long way to transform trucking," said Chaz Jones, a research analyst with Morgan Keegan, a Memphis investment bank. "Truckers typically get paid per mile. The more time cargo spends moving on the road, the more revenue it generates for a carrier."

In recent months, delays at the hurricane-damaged port of New Orleans and bottlenecks at Long Beach and Los Angeles have caused companies to look for alternative trade routes. Industry analysts said Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is one of several companies moving freight through Mexico as an alternative to using West Coast ports; Wal-Mart spokespeople would not confirm the move.

Because so much trade between NAFTA partners is carried by truck, Midwestern cities with good transportation infrastructure stand to capture some of that trade flow.

In August 2005, trucks carried 64 percent of imports from Canada and Mexico and 80 percent of U.S. exports to those countries, according to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics.

San Antonio has also invested significant efforts to develop a competing inland port. But Kansas City officials hope the customs facility will give the city a leg up, especially once the project's second phase, which will allow rail cars to clear Mexican customs as well, is completed.

Kansas City Southern owns two Mexican train lines which means they can send freight from the Midwest directly to the Mexican port of Lazaro Cardenas, where car manufacturer Mazda Motor Corp. has begun shipping vehicles from Japan to Kansas City.

"There might not be enough volume to open a rail facility today, but we certainly expect that will increase in the next few years," said Warren Erdman, a vice president at Kansas City Southern. "We have great interest in the proposal."


15 posted on 11/28/2005 6:05:23 PM PST by cope85
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To: MRMEAN

In fact, most illegals are here for jobs and most illegals are willing to work hard. When I had an office in Georgia, I had terrific Mexican clients looking for ways to become legal. They wanted to pay taxes and were not looking for a free ride. But there were also others looking for just exactly that...the free ride.

My problem with this whole issue is Mexico, Vincente Fox, and why Mexicans feel they need to come here in the first place. THAT is the issue I want addressed. And no one ever does.


17 posted on 11/28/2005 6:19:59 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: MRMEAN
First things first on the border

Concrete and razor wire?

19 posted on 11/28/2005 6:22:14 PM PST by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: MRMEAN
Without first showing the border can be secured enough to drastically reduce illegal migration, the president's other priorities such as a "guest worker" program should not be implemented.

Secure the borders first. Deportation follows.

21 posted on 11/28/2005 6:24:54 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: All
returning illegal migrants captured along the Mexican border back to the interior of Mexico rather than releasing them simply on the other side. (Such a step would reduce the incentive for those who keep trying to find one of many holes in the US security system.)

This Knight Ridder Newspapers, Arizona Daily Star, Jun. 30 article reprinted at

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2004/07/immigrantreturn.php

says

"The program, approved by Hutchinson earlier this month and known as interior repatriation, is designed to funnel illegal immigrants away from the Arizona-Sonora desert, where punishing heat has killed hundreds, by flying the migrants to Mexico City or Guadalajara and then busing them to their towns.

"The agreement caps months of delicate negotiations with Mexico, where the concept of interior repatriation is highly controversial.

"Mexican officials insisted that the repatriation be voluntary and that detainees not be handcuffed.

"Mexican consular officials will interview the migrants to ensure their decision to fly is voluntary. "

[End excerpt]

Neither the President's speech nor the CSM pointed out that it all depends upon the Mexicans themselves. It appears to me.

23 posted on 11/28/2005 6:36:05 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Move over Henny Youngman.. please! "The most trusted news source." CNN)
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To: dennisw; gubamyster; HiJinx
If the USBP had a modern multiple fence border system to defend, they could do their job easily.

But our leaders want the borders open to allow in dirt cheap illegal alien labor, which is why they will NOT build a fence.


25 posted on 11/28/2005 6:55:42 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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