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To: abigkahuna
Savage's 3 hour show is refreshing and hilariously funny. He goes the extra bit from time to time, but it's part of the show. If you listen closely, at the end of some of his trademarked rants you can hear him cracking up at his own tirade. He is in on the joke, I wish more folks could just appreciate the joke, too.

Talk radio has its strengths. Even by casually listening from time to time, the average person will be better informed about votes coming up in congress, presidential antics, and other news stories. It's up to everyone to research them a bit and come up with an informed opinion on them, though.

Just by knowing that stuff, a person is more substantively informed than 96% of the general population, and 98% of the crowd in colleges and graduate schools :-)

I live Savage's stories and tangents. He has a remarkable ability to go off on an anecdote, illustrate it with examples or a personal story, and then distill it to the moral and apply it to the story of the day. Sometimes it's remarkable and does indeed cross over into brilliance.

The stories are mesmerizing, to be sure. One armed Frank, wealthy midgets who have sex with busty models in the back of limos, hairy-armed old timers mixing tuna salad, etc. Classic stuff. You won't hear that kind of Americana (or at least, Americana as filtered through The Savage Mind) anywhere else. It's raw. It's powerful. It's hilariously funny. And it's never boring.

On top of that, I like how he is genuinely open minded and is never a cheerleader for the GOP. The only thing as nauseating as the legion of Clintonistas who kept repeating how brilliant their boy was between 1992 and 200, is a legion of Bushbots repeating how brilliant their boy is between 2000 and today. Savage is no $hill (well, except for himself).

And that's no jive.
115 posted on 11/28/2005 6:27:42 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: HitmanNY; All

You're absolutely correct. Based upon what I've heard in the ten-odd years I've been listening to his show, my opinion is that "Savage" is a character created by Dr. Wiener to present the ugly truths about our country in an entertaining way. Those who listen to the show carefully will detect a calm current of genuine wisdom beneath the ratings-grabbing foam.

What is a nation? A nation is a group of people who are united by a common culture and who usually live in proximity to one another. Culture, in turn, is a combination of cult (i.e. religion), customs, and language. Therefore, what defines "America" as a nation is its culture -- its borders, language, and Judeo-Christian religious tradition -- not its form of government (the State), its flag (its Symbol), or its constitution (the Law). These things are derived from the nation, but they do not define it.

The reason "Savage" is so cordially hated by many on FR and in the GOP is that he represents a genuinely nationalist point of view.

Nationalism -- the dedication to one's nation above all but God -- has been heresy in the GOP since the failure of the Goldwater campaign. To the New Republicans, nationalism is bunk. Libertarian in outlook, utilitarian in philosophy, the brave new GOP counts individual freedom, not the national commonweal, as their highest ideal. Freedom, freedom above all, the New Republicans cry, and never mind the good of the nation or the preservation of the nation. This idolatry of Individual Liberty is the new cult that stands at the center of the New GOP, and at odds with traditional conservatism. (The Democrats are no more nationalist than the Republicans; instead of deifying the Liberty and the Sovereign Individual, they deify the Law and Sovereign State.) To the average Republican of today, the nation is the enemy -- a hindrance to free trade, free expression, and free love. The ideal world is a world where might makes right, where markets take the place of nations, and all values are market values. (To the Democrat, the nation stands for chauvinism,intolerance, and theocracy; their ideal world is the ultimate bureaucracy -- a single, atheistic global superstate, where values are determined by "the Will of the People".)

As a nationalist and patriot, I oppose both the Republican dream of godless global mercantilization and the godless bureaucratic dreamworld of the Democrats. I support the preservation of the American nation -- our national borders, our English language, and our Judeo-Christian culture above all other worldly goods. The free market, civil rights, wealth, fame, fortune -- all have their place; but without her borders, her language, and her culture, the American nation ceases to exist. Oh, the American State might continue on, but once the borders become meaningless and he culture dies, the nation dies, no matter how many scurrying drones may inhabit the national anthill in Washington.

This is why I listen to "Savage". He's the only real conservative on the radio. He's the only one who still believes in the American nation. Sure, the Flatbush Avenue schtick gets tired at times, but behind the Borscht Belt comedy lies a truly American spirit -- the American Spirit that survived the Depression, that beat the Nazis and the Japanese, and that landed men on the Moon. That spirit is what keeps me coming back. That's what keeps his ratings high.

I have nothing against Limbaugh and Hannity. They do their job (shilling for the GOP) well. I have no opinion on Dr. Wiener as a man. He may have ugly skeletons in his closet; I don't know. He may be a cynical entrepreneur out to make a buck; I've seen it before. He could be a genius or a total nutcase -- I have no idea which. All I can do is judge what he says. And despite all the froth and vitriol, what he says is, more often than not, the truth.


208 posted on 11/28/2005 7:49:36 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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