Bush v Hitler

Pravda RU ^ | 01/03/2004 | David R. Hoffman

[misharu]

Although the quest for or preservation of "democracy" is often used as a justification for war, history has incessantly revealed that such a quest is often little more than a thinly-veiled attempt to install a puppet regime.

Nazi leader Herman Goering once remarked that it was easy to lead people into war, regardless of whether they resided within "a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, a parliament, or a communist dictatorship." All that was required, Goering argued, is for their government to "tell them they are being attacked, and [then] denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger."

Many years ago, when I was younger and more idealistic, I would have viewed Goering's statement as an anachronism. After all, millions had suffered immensely during the nightmare of World War II, and it seemed that this historical imprint alone would have indelibly reminded people about the folly of blindly following leaders into war. Also (and despite Goering's assertion) democracy appeared to offer additional protections from this folly as well, particularly in wealthy, industrialized nations like America, where freedom of speech and press permitted the free exchange of ideas, which in turn served to balance emotion and reason, and exposed any lies used to rationalize an unjust war. While it is true that America still suffered through the Vietnam era, it did not do so unquestioningly, nor with a blind faith in the nation"s leaders.

[misharu]

I was searching for something on Hitler and this came up. Even though its old, I thought I would go ahead and post it.

Apologies if it has already been posted. I searched but did not see it.

Admins - if it is in the wrong forum. Please move it to correct one. Thanks!

[Right Wing Professor]

Admins - if it is in the wrong forum. Please move it to correct one. Thanks!

It's in the wrong forum, all right. How about DU?

IBTZ, even though you are a six-year FReeper. You expect to get away with a picture of the President with a swastika and Hitler moustache?

[curtisgardner]

I get so sick and tired of the Bush/Hitler comparisons. They are STUPID. If these people were to spend just one day under Hitler (questioning his gov't for example), they would beg to have George W. around to save their sorry asses.

[rawcatslyentist]

>"All that was required, Goering argued, is for their government to "tell them they are being attacked,"

NY City sept 11 2001.

When did you get your official gubbamint notification????

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[SF Republican]

You have been lurking 6 years to post that?

[misharu]

No I don't. But I thought that this forum was to show not only the support of the President but also to show how the looney left and others view us.

Unfortunately, I forgot to put a "barf alert" on it. I don't post much, but I thought it would be of interest.

Sorry if you got the wrong idea.

[Colonel_Flagg]

So tell us - what was it you were searching for about Hitler that made it necessary for you to post garbage like this?

[Colonel_Flagg]

I see your explanantion above. This needs a serious BA.

[curtisgardner]

no he just forgot the barf alert. Why do FReepers have to focus on stupid side issues like this? Focus on the body of the article, not how long he has been a member.

[misharu]

There was a quote I saw once about twenty-five years ago from a Hitler speech that I wanted to check out. I couldn't remember it exactly, so I went to search for it.

[winner3000]

We know how communists feel about us. We also know what arabs think about us (you could post a million such articles from the Arab media).

The Hitler comparison is just so stretched, that it doesn't even start a conversation.

[Cyclopean Squid]

What was the gist of the quotation?

[Right Wing Professor]

But I thought that this forum was to show not only the support of the President but also to show how the looney left and others view us.

Sure. But that ain't news.

The picture in the linked article is a bit much, too.

Sorry if you got the wrong idea.

Actually, I thought you'd probably left yourself logged on in a public place :-)

[misharu]

Um . . .something about protests in the streets . . .something about communism . . .all I really remember is that it could have been written about the anti-war protests in the 70's. I honestly can't remember any more than that.

Lordie, the mind is a terrible thing to waste.

[SF Republican]

I thought was a dis at the President Bush made to look like Hitler and I do not like it. Barf alert would have been appropriate.

[Cyclopean Squid]

If you are interested in Hitler's thoughts about, well, anything, you should check out this book--it's a collection of his private conversations (as edited by Bormann):

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1929631057/102-1183179-3926546?v=glance&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v=glance

I'll see if I can find anything relevant in my copy.

[Sleeping Beauty]

I know exact what it was. Bush said:

"See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."

The left made a big deal about this, comparing it to Joseph Goebbels, Hiter's Nazi Propaganda Minister (not to Hitler).

I am not amused. A barf alert would have been nice.

[MurryMom]

You expect to get away with a picture of the President with a swastika and Hitler moustache?

So far, so good.