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Battleship Film Revives Japan's Pride In Wartime Generation
The telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-28-2005

Posted on 11/27/2005 4:41:55 PM PST by blam

Battleship film revives Japan's pride in wartime generation

(Filed: 28/11/2005)

Sixty years after the colossal battleship Yamato was sunk, the pride of Japan's wartime navy is once again an object of fascination.

Almost 400,000 visitors have flocked to see a full-scale replica of the deck of the Yamato in Onomichi, western Japan. The ship was reconstructed for the shooting of a film, Men of the Yamato, which will be released next month.

The £3million replica deck, made for the film Men of the Yamato, has attracted 400,000 Japanese visitors

The Yamato, the largest battleship ever built, was considered indestructible by the Japanese. But little more than three years after it was completed it was sunk in the East China Sea in April 1945 on a suicidal mission that cost the lives of almost its entire crew of 3,000 men.

The film does not glorify the sacrifice, graphically portraying the anguish of the crew's families and the bloody end to which the men came as their ship was swarmed by US Navy planes.

But, like other recent Japanese war movies, it glosses over Tokyo's aggression and focuses instead on the bravery and comradeship of the men who fought.

Growing tension in East Asia, particularly since North Korea launched a missile over Japanese airspace in 1998, has led to a rethink of the post-war commitment to pacifism. As Japan's Self Defence Forces have been despatched to provide logistical support for the US-led war in Afghanistan and to Iraq for post-war reconstruction, it has become more acceptable to be interested in military matters.

The true hero of the film is the Yamato itself. The production company Toei spent £3 million building the replica deck to ensure the film gives a powerful sense of the scale of the ship and the awe it inspired in the wartime nation.

The ship displaced 65,000 tons and was 862 feet long but was largely obsolete by the time it was built. The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour amply demonstrated the vulnerability of battleships to aerial attack.

The anniversary of the ship's sinking was also marked in April by the opening of a museum dedicated to the Yamato in Kure, near Hiroshima, where the original was built. The museum displays items recovered from the Yamato after it was located on the sea bed in 1985.

Under pressure to take a larger share of the burden of fighting in 1945, the Japanese navy elected to turn the Yamato into a gigantic kamikaze ship. With neither air cover nor enough fuel to return, the Yamato was ordered to sail to Okinawa, where the Americans were fighting their way on to Japanese soil.

It was destroyed the day after setting sail, becoming the epitome of the "smashed jewel", a rallying cry for the entire nation to achieve beauty in defeat by dying without surrendering.

The Yamato continues to loom large in popular consciousness. One of the country's most famous cartoon series is Spaceship Yamato, set in a future when the Yamato is recovered from the sea and flown into space. Yamato model ships are the must-have toy for boys.

The Yamato offers the Japanese a relatively safe outlet for feelings of pride in - and sympathy for - the war generation. Few express admiration for the wartime leaders or for soldiers who fought in China, for example, where massacres were committed.

But the navy's reputation was not sullied by atrocities while its leader, Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, opposed the catastrophic war with the United States.

The young sailors of the Yamato are widely seen as victims, who fought bravely to protect their country even as they were betrayed.

The film's director, Junya Sato, has stressed it is an anti-war film. "We need to think about what needs to be done so that Japan doesn't go to war again. Making a film about the Yamato is a step in that direction," he said.

However, others fear a negative reaction from a war movie which focuses only on Japanese suffering.

"Given the strained relations with China I wonder whether this is a good time to make this movie. It could be misunderstood as glorifying the ship and the war," said one visitor to the reconstructed Yamato.


TOPICS: Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: battleship; eastchinasea; film; generation; japan; japans; midway; militaryhistory; musashi; pearlharbor; pride; revives; toratoratora; wartime; worldwareleven; wwii; yamato
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To: blam

Why is there a Yamato Road in Boca Raton, I wonder. As a kid I built a plastic model of this ship.


21 posted on 11/27/2005 5:43:54 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality) - "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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To: GonzoGOP

Thanks for the additional information. It has been a lot of years since I read about it. I seem to remember something about one of the reasons it went down was because of some kind of a design flaw (I am a structural engineer so it was of interest to me). The torpedo that hit (and I think there was only one) should NOT have caused enough damage to sink it, less pumps or not. I wonder if the Yamato also had the same design flaw?


22 posted on 11/27/2005 5:47:56 PM PST by jim_trent
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To: blam
That this was an absolute suicide mission could not have been clearer to the Japanese as they had proven themselves in 1941 with their attack on the un-air protected 2 ship 'task force' "HMS Prince of Wales" and "HMS Repulse". As Billy Mitchell demonstrated decades earlier, no air cover in an area of enemy air superiority leads to significant naval loses. Unsinkable merely means that you need to try harder with bigger weapons.

As a story I can see the attraction to the Japanese. The Imperial Japanese Navy was, like its Royal Navy counterpart and frequent mentor, the premier service for an island nation. The "Yamoto" and "Musashi" represented an enormous investment for the Japanese in money, effort and spirit. While little could have been done to stave off the disaster that they had lit the fuse for, it might have been better to build smaller. As Comrade Stalin is reputed to have said, "Quantity has a quality all its own".

23 posted on 11/27/2005 5:49:37 PM PST by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: blam
When I was a kid, I had a model of the Yamato. It was really a beautiful ship.

If used earlier with support from carriers etc. it could have a devastating impact on places like Guadalcanal. Those 18 inch guns would have done a little damage I guess.

24 posted on 11/27/2005 5:50:37 PM PST by yarddog
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To: jim_trent

I think the Yamato took 19 torpedoes if my memory is right plus a lot of bombs.


25 posted on 11/27/2005 5:52:29 PM PST by yarddog
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To: SES1066

I should have been more clear. When I said it wasn't a suiside mission I was talking about the carrier Shinano. They only put enough fuel in her for a one way trip so it was clear they didn't expect her to return.


26 posted on 11/27/2005 6:32:08 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: blam; Sam the Sham; maikeru; Dr. Marten; Eric in the Ozarks; Al Gator; snowsislander; sushiman; ...
The film does not glorify the sacrifice, graphically portraying the anguish of the crew's families and the bloody end to which the men came as their ship was swarmed by US Navy planes. But, like other recent Japanese war movies, it glosses over Tokyo's aggression and focuses instead on the bravery and comradeship of the men who fought.

As if the crew of the Yamato were spending their last hours holding philosophical discussions about Empirial Japan's aggression.

Japan * ping * (kono risuto ni hairitai ka detai wo shirasete kudasai : let me know if you want on or off this list)

27 posted on 11/27/2005 6:41:05 PM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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To: SES1066
" it might have been better to build smaller" It certainly appears that the IJN would have been served by 20 or 30 escort carriers and a few squadrons of fighters to protect their merchant fleet from the US Submarines than they were by these two giant battleships. Of course if Admiral Toyoda hadn't lost his nerve at the Battle of the Philippine Sea and had used Yamato's big guns to wipe out MacArthur's entire army on the beach we probably would consider them to be the greatest investment the Japanese made. Its best to say that the big battleships were badly misused by the IJN. The presence of these ships in Iron Bottom sound during Guadalcanal could have tipped the balance. But they were so expensive that the IJN afraid of loosing the and hence didn't use them early in the war when they could have made a difference. Later they sacrificed them when their sacrifice, and that of their 3000 man crews, wouldn't make a difference even if they succeeded in their attack.
28 posted on 11/27/2005 6:41:34 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: blam
The young sailors of the Yamato are widely seen as victims, who fought bravely to protect their country even as they were betrayed.

They probably had a good time raping Korean "Comfort Girls" before getting nailed by the United States Navy.

29 posted on 11/27/2005 6:46:16 PM PST by Temple Owl (Excelsior--Onward and Upward)
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To: yarddog
When I was a teenager I met a guy who was one of the air crew of an Avenger that sank the Yamato. I told him I heard that it was a really, really giant ship, and how big was it? His reply: "It was the biggest thing I ever saw in my life!"

He also mentioned that he himself never saw torpedo loaded in his Avenger after he left flight crew school. His plane was a always loaded with conventional bombs.

30 posted on 11/27/2005 6:50:31 PM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: DTogo
Dommo. :D
31 posted on 11/27/2005 7:00:34 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: Lockbar
If you want to see what she looks like today visit
http://www.warship.get.net.pl/Japonia/Battleships/1941_Yamato_class/Wreck/_Yamato_wreck_02.html
32 posted on 11/27/2005 7:01:09 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: horse_doc
The History Channel had the Battle of Leyte Gulf on a couple of weeks ago. A destroyer escort launched it's 3 torpedoes
at the Yamato and took the battleship (and admiral) out of the battle for 10 minutes as it turned away to avoid them.
33 posted on 11/27/2005 7:04:24 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: blam
The mushroom cloud created by explosion of the Yamato was visible from the Southern Japanese Islands. People who say it said it was the largest explosion they ever saw. Well, at least it was until August 6th, 1945.
34 posted on 11/27/2005 7:05:10 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (If Tom Tancredo is on the GOP ticket in 2008, We Will Have Another President Clinton in 2009.)
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To: blam

Oh, I'm sure you're gonna wanna go see this one.......


35 posted on 11/27/2005 7:08:21 PM PST by SW6906 (5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
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To: GonzoGOP

Do not forget to give some credit to the suicidally brave task force of destroyer escorts and escort carriers that put up so much of a fight that Toyoda believed he had encountered the main force (foolishly sent north after the Jap carriers).


36 posted on 11/27/2005 7:19:34 PM PST by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal.)
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To: jim_trent

The ship you are referring to is the Shinano. It was sunk by the USS Archerfish.


37 posted on 11/27/2005 7:24:31 PM PST by kilowhskey (Land of the free, because of the brave.)
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To: 91B
I saw that on the History channel. Simply incredible bravery by the American sailors. They said at first the Japanese shells were not doing much damage to the little destroyers because they were passing right through them because their armor was so thin.

The Japanese figured out what was happening and changed the type shells and began to destroy them. Absolutely suicidal attacks by tiny ships against an entire fleet of capital ships.

38 posted on 11/27/2005 7:24:40 PM PST by yarddog
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To: GonzoGOP; 91B

Minor nit picking note.

Admiral Kurita was the on scene commander for the Leyte Gulf battle. Adm Toyada was the IJN C in C

For a good read on the attack by the "Small Boys" see the book "Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors" it was published in the last year or two.

Also the Yamato was sunk 7 April 1945, about a week after the Okinowa invasion beging so President Bush #41 would not have been there.

http://www.combinedfleet.com has lots of cool stof on the IJN

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


39 posted on 11/27/2005 7:37:57 PM PST by alfa6 (Got a plane ya want featured let me know)
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To: 91B
Do not forget to give some credit to the suicidally brave task force of destroyer escorts and escort carriers that put up so much of a fight that Toyoda believed he had encountered the main force (foolishly sent north after the Jap carriers). Absolutely. The men and ships that fought with Adm. Sprague off Samar saved the US from a total disaster. And as an additional correction I identified the Japanese commander as Toyoda. Toyoda was in command at the Battle of the Philippine Sea, it was in fact Kurita was in command at Leyte Gulf and who lost his nerve when attacked by the escort carriers and DEs of Taffy 3.

Some mention should also be made of the fighting spirit sailors on board the escort carriers. The pilots who returned to their carriers to rearm and refuel to attack the battleships again and again instead of flying away towards land. And the sailors of Taffy 2 who steamed TOWARDS Kurita's battle line and who's arrival helped convince Kurita he was up against Halsey. A fighting spirit that can best be demonstrated by a signalman on Sprague's flagship who upon seeing the Japanese turn away declared "damn it, they’re getting away!"
40 posted on 11/27/2005 7:50:21 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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