That is DISGUSTING. Shame on you.
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Posted on 11/27/2005 6:51:42 AM PST by FerdieMurphy
....YUM! Where can I get one?.....
This is from the UK. Apparently the Brits are one up on us. I had assumed that Brit pizzas has kidneys and kippers for toppings
Your comments are exactly on. Once anything is in government control the social engineering aspect comes into play. In the local arena as well as the feds it plays out. Like HOV traffic lanes. We all paid for them but only those performing in an acceptable manner get to use them. It would be especially insidious in the health care arena. "If you want care, you will toe the line." Exceptions to this will be, of course, if you contract HIV for which you will be pampered and apologized to.
Sam I resent your linebacker ploy. I played linebacker at 210 lbs. and 6'2". I weigh 208 now at the age of 75. Not to say tho that at one time I did balloon up to 260 lbs. but preferred good health over obesity.
I don't know the answer, but I wonder if it's just an exercise in futility. Since as far as I know, artificial joints aren't in limited supply (like donated organs), I would see no reason to refuse, unless there is some other limit, such as doctor shortage, hospital bed shortage, etc.
If there is a limiting factor, then I would make a value judgement and deny those with self-inflicted problems.
Per order of my Cardiologist a few years ago,I lost about 35 pounds over about 5 months,thanks to Atkins and lots of "power walking".
But then one of my hips went bad...I got discouraged... couldn't walk...regained about 40 pounds.I just had hip surgery a few weeks ago and am expected to recover to my previous status.
Once I start my walking again,I hope to repeat the process.
"From April 2003 to January 2004, I went from 304 pounds with a size 48 waist to 197 pounds with a size 34 waist."
Well done, indeed.
"It has been far more difficult keeping the weight off than I ever imagined...even as I walked 7-10 miles a day, I found that I could still easily gain the weight back if I didn't stick to a strict diet."
Okay, right there the "all obesity is due solely to overeating" theory falls flat on its face.
A person who exercises should be able to maintain his weight without sticking to "a strict diet." Some people can; some people can even overeat without getting fat. For others, a strict diet *and* exercise are both necessary.
Clearly, there is another factor at work. The sooner medical science stops patting itself on the back and gets to work finding that other factor, the sooner the "epidemic" of obesity will be brought under control.
Being overweight not only increases one's chances of needing a hip/knee replacement,it also lessens the chances of such procedures being successful.
I didn't grow up fat. In fact, I was rail-thin to the point that when I went to Marine boot camp, they put me on double-rations because I was considered to be underweight.
During my school years, I remember how the fat kids were made fun of. There wasn't that many of them in those days so the teasing was especially cruel. I would never advocate the teasing of fat kids. It didn't seem to shame them into getting thin. In fact, it socially isolated them, probably causing them to get even fatter. After all, depression and overeating appear to be linked.
My weight gain happened after I left the Marines. It was slow and gradual so that I personally didn't notice how fat I was getting until co-workers and friends started teasing me about it - in a good-natured way, of course. But I started getting the message.
Trust me, it was no fun being fat. I found myself huffing and puffing just climbing a set of stairs. When my kids were young, I was too tired to play ball or go bike riding with them. I'd rather just sit on a lawn chair and watch or sit at the computer. I was one of those who didn't believe in leftovers. At family meals, I'd eat everything. If I opened a bag of chips or a box of cookies, I'd finish it.
So overeating and lack of exercise definitely was the root cause of my obesity. And teasing and ridicule wasn't going to dissuade me from my lifestyle.
I finally got fed up with my weight in March of 2003, when I went on a business convention and found that my suit didn't fit me anymore. During a banquet, the seams of my pants split and still, I sat at the table eating not only my dessert but the desserts of others at my table that didn't want theirs. It was at that point in time that I realized I had a real problem.
Once I took the weight off, I noticed an immediate difference with the way strangers treated me. They were much more friendlier and respectful. There seems to be an inbred disrespect of obese people in our culture. All I know is that I am treated much differently now then I was then.
Did you play linebacker in the NFL?
Hey, those wings are lo-carb, that's diet food !!
I know quite a few well off Asians and they're all lean. Much more so than almost everyone else around them.
What is sad about this article is the denial of healthcare based on bigotry. Ultimately this is what will doom socialized healthcare in the US: The simple fact that despite all promises to the contrary, its about rationing/denial of healthcare, not what you need when you need it.
By and large,obesity is a "disease" of affluence.I'll spare you a long-winded explanation as to why..but just think about our lifestyle today as compared to,say,30 years ago... or,better still,50 years ago.
"By and large,obesity is a "disease" of affluence."
Why, then, are more poor people obese?
"I'll spare you a long-winded explanation as to why..but just think about our lifestyle today as compared to,say,30 years ago... or,better still,50 years ago."
What I remember from 50 years ago is ice cream, candy bars, cokes, buttered popcorn, rich three-layer chocolate cakes, cherry cobbler, and dinner tables where you ate fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy, buttered cornbread, and corn on the cob until you were stuffed.
"I know quite a few well off Asians and they're all lean. Much more so than almost everyone else around them."
Obesity is increasing at a rapid clip in Japan.
If they're denying them replacement because it's self-inflicted that's stupid. If those poeple have any hope of LOSING the weight it's better diet and excercise. Denying them the ability to move would be like refusing to give people trying to quit smoking nicotine patches. This MUST be a government operation.
That is DISGUSTING. Shame on you.
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Actually, when one is using the term "affluence," one has to apply it to the society as a whole, not specific individuals. In our "affluent" U.S. society, food is both plentiful and relatively cheap. Poverty in the U.S. doesn't imply the inability to get food. However, "poor" Americans are more likely to get a superabundance of cheap, carbohydrate-laden foods, and this contributes to their obesity. They are also less likely to take advantage of weight-loss measures such as daily exercise that require self-discipline and an understanding of how their bodies work.
Your asking that question suggests to me that you don't know the real definition of the word "poor".There's "south side of Chicago" poor and there's "East African" poor.I've seen them both...and they don't even remotely resemble each other.
What I remember from 50 years ago is ice cream, candy bars, cokes, buttered popcorn, rich three-layer chocolate cakes...
Yes,I remember that.But I also remember....3 channels of TV (rather than 200)...no PCs....mowing your own lawn.... baseball/softball in the park....(in other words,we were far more physically active back then).
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