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To: Non-Sequitur
"The problem with your link is that if you read it closely Adams is admitting that there is no concrete evidence that supports the claim that Lincoln issued an arrest warrant for Taney. No support in the archives of the U.S. Marshal;s Service. No support in the Lieber papers. Nothing but opinion and speculation and paranoid fears without justification"

You seem to have ignored the personal papers of Federal Marshall Ward Hill Laman, located at the the Huntington library in Pasadena.

You also ignored Baltimore Mayor George Brown's book regarding the conversation he had with Chief Justice Taney following the Merryman decision. Mr. Taney states to Brown "He then told me that he knew his own imprisonment had been a matter of consultation, but the danger had passed, and he warned me from information he had received, that my time would come.".

What about Justice Curtis's reference to Lincoln's plan to arrest the Chief Justice: "He wrote the dissenting opinion in Dred Scott, which Lincoln carried in his pocket while debating with Stephen A. Douglas. He resigned from the Court after a dispute with Taney over that case. Yet he admired the Chief Justice for his Merryman decision, and makes reference to the plan to arrest Taney, calling it a "Great Crime."".

As Mr. Adams states "And so the case stands, the Presidential warrant to arrest the Chief Justice is on solid ground. It represents just one more tough nut the apologists and gate keepers have to live with; it cannot be swept under the rug, so to speak, as a fabrication.".

61 posted on 11/27/2005 10:01:28 PM PST by Rabble (Just When is John F sKerry going to release his USNR military records ?)
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To: Rabble
You seem to have ignored the personal papers of Federal Marshall Ward Hill Laman, located at the the Huntington library in Pasadena.

No, just the fact that there is nothing in Lamon's papers providing that evidence. The story of the Taney arrest warrant first appeared in an edition of Lamon's book, which was ghost written by the way. There is no warrant, there is no documentation that such a warrant was issued. There is no evidence that Lincoln ordered warrants on anyone else. Taney never spent a minute in jail. There is simply nothing which supports the claim.

You also ignored Baltimore Mayor George Brown's book regarding the conversation he had with Chief Justice Taney following the Merryman decision. Mr. Taney states to Brown "He then told me that he knew his own imprisonment had been a matter of consultation, but the danger had passed, and he warned me from information he had received, that my time would come.".

Taney related his paranoid fears to several people. But I would ask who told Taney that his imprisonment had been discussed. Lamon would have us believe that only he and Lincoln were in on the warrant, who told Taney? Taney was convinced that he would suffer for the Merriman decision, that doesn't mean that such plans were ever contemplated.

What about Justice Curtis's reference to Lincoln's plan to arrest the Chief Justice: "He wrote the dissenting opinion in Dred Scott, which Lincoln carried in his pocket while debating with Stephen A. Douglas. He resigned from the Court after a dispute with Taney over that case. Yet he admired the Chief Justice for his Merryman decision, and makes reference to the plan to arrest Taney, calling it a "Great Crime."".

One would assume that the source for the Taney arrest threat was Taney himself. And again, just because Taney was convinced he would be arrested doesn't mean it was planned. Taney remained on the bench until his death.

As Mr. Adams states "And so the case stands, the Presidential warrant to arrest the Chief Justice is on solid ground. It represents just one more tough nut the apologists and gate keepers have to live with; it cannot be swept under the rug, so to speak, as a fabrication.".

Adams's "solid ground" is what the courts would call hearsay, and would be thrown out of any court in the land. Adams admits there is no concrete evidence, just stories. But absence of evidence has never stopped men like Adams and DiLorenzo from making their claims.

67 posted on 11/28/2005 4:01:15 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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