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To: narses; All
I was going to stay out of this thread for a while but I might as well join in and mention the most important point that seems to have eluded many people here - and so enough of this 'poor girl' and 'poor slave' nonsense.

Did it ever occur to anyone that many of these girls have chosen this life - and in many cases know exactly what they are getting in to?

Many of these girls are not 'forced', tricked or lured into prostitution, they have chosen to become prostitutes and many know full well what to expect.

120 posted on 11/26/2005 9:46:34 PM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: expatguy

"Did it ever occur to anyone that many of these girls have chosen this life - and in many cases know exactly what they are getting in to?"

Even if they chose to become prostitutes, they did not choose to have their freedom of travel taken away, or their freedom to choose how many and what customers they will entertain, or to abdicate their right to quit. And they certainly didn't choose to have their captors steal their earnings.


125 posted on 11/26/2005 10:03:43 PM PST by dsc
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To: expatguy

" Did it ever occur to anyone that many of these girls have chosen this life ..."

None interviewed for this story. In Rome men sold themselves (and their wives and children) into slavery. That doesn't make it right, moral or proper.

The myth of the 'free' or liberated prostitute is widespread among those who use women for hire, it helps salve their conscience, or whatever they use in place of same.


126 posted on 11/26/2005 10:06:08 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: expatguy
Did it ever occur to anyone that many of these girls have chosen this life - and in many cases know exactly what they are getting in to?

Of course. Doesn't everyone want to get gang-raped, beaten, and held prisoner??? (/sarcasm)

129 posted on 11/26/2005 10:11:08 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: HankReardon; expatguy; narses

expat...many of these girls have chosen this life - and in many cases know exactly what they are getting in to?


Your reasoning is based on "new morals," (man-created) ie...."choice, consent, moral autonomy (in place of unchanging transcendant absolutes), and privacy. All of these "new morals" are founded on the notion of "self ownership" and man as the highest authority.

Now, if it's morally ok (per the preceding 'new morality") to "rent" one's body (engage in prostitution), then it follows logically that one can "choose" to become a slave to another person.
Hence, slavery is ok whenever it can be 'claimed' that all parties are in agreement. Likewise, one can 'choose' to become the 'dinner' of a cannibal in the 'privacy' of one's home (remember the fairly recent German cannibal case?). But yet all of the proponents of "new morality" find themselves feeling somewhat squeamish about their 'new morality' in affairs of this nature. They suddenly 'discover' the usefulness of 'old' moral absolutes.

A worldview is only as good as the 'walls' it keeps you from running into. The Libertarian 'worldview' is flawed, as it causes one to run into very discomitting walls at every turn.


154 posted on 11/27/2005 4:27:06 AM PST by Lindykim (Courage is the first of all the virtues...if you haven*t courage, you may not have the opportunity)
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