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White House claims 'strong consensus' on Iraq pullout
Agence France Presse | November 27, 2005

Posted on 11/26/2005 6:45:53 PM PST by HAL9000

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1 posted on 11/26/2005 6:45:54 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

And exactly what is the french press smoking now?


2 posted on 11/26/2005 6:48:50 PM PST by xcamel (a system poltergeist stole it.)
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To: HAL9000

So what's the deal? The Republicans co-opt every plan the Democrats have?


3 posted on 11/26/2005 6:48:55 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Eternity? Smoking or nonsmoking?)
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To: HAL9000
Washington Post - Time for An Iraq Timetable - Joseph R. Biden Jr.
4 posted on 11/26/2005 6:50:11 PM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000

This will surely satisfy critics!


5 posted on 11/26/2005 6:50:26 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: HAL9000

Is there anybody on this board that is not in favor of bringing home the troops (except maybe keeping a base with the Iraqi's consent) under the right circumstances?

But we need to focus on those circumstances and not the timing of the withdrawal. It could be in a year or two or it could be in ten years - the key thing is to establish a friendly stable democracy capable of defending itself from enemies internal and external.

John Lennon was once asked how long the Beatles would last and said something like "if I say five years, I'll be lucky if it's 5 minutes." We should be at least that smart.


6 posted on 11/26/2005 6:50:58 PM PST by gondramB
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To: isthisnickcool

Makes you wonder, don't it?


7 posted on 11/26/2005 6:51:13 PM PST by fhlh (Polls are for strippers and liberal spinsters.)
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To: HAL9000

I hope AFP is lying, unless the troops are moved out of Iraq into Iran.


8 posted on 11/26/2005 6:51:13 PM PST by JohnCliftn (In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Good Will.)
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To: HAL9000
Try to build support for one's party in an election year via Triangulation... How Clintonesque. Terrible for Iraq, but great for poll numbers.

Bush is caving.

9 posted on 11/26/2005 6:51:42 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: isthisnickcool

"So what's the deal? The Republicans co-opt every plan the Democrats have?"

Let's let them keep Hillary's healthcare plan.... :)


10 posted on 11/26/2005 6:51:43 PM PST by gondramB
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To: HAL9000

actually I suspect this has been the Dem plan all along. They saw the writing on the wall and probably already knew the president was going to be reducing troop levels in Iraq soon so they get out front in order to make it look like they are responsible rather than the president.


11 posted on 11/26/2005 6:51:46 PM PST by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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I hope AFP is lying, unless the troops are moved out of Iraq into Iran.

I'd even settle on them moving into Syria...as a message to Iran.

12 posted on 11/26/2005 6:52:36 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Dr Snide

Concur.


13 posted on 11/26/2005 6:53:19 PM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000

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14 posted on 11/26/2005 6:53:27 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: HAL9000

The Warner Amendment signals attempted Vietnamization of the Global War on Terror. After Tet in 1968 a Rand study reported an NVA disaster with staggering and surprising losses, which Colonel Bui Tin of the NVA General Staff corroborated in a 1995 Wall Street Journal interview. However, the outcry from media, intellectuals and Hollywood punctuated by Cronkite’s “quagmire” sound bite and Fonda’s pledge of solidarity with the NVA encouraged North Vietnam to regard America as irresolute. The war was won a second time in 1972 when General Giap lost an entire army in his abortive invasion. A Democratic Congress intervened for final Tonkinese conquest in 1975 by then refusing to re-supply the South Vietnamese.

The Warner Amendment presages consideration of like elegant foreign policies re-defining national interests and creating exit strategies to ensure we can cut and run as Iraqi’s pursue a broadly representative government. The amendment portends an apathetic response similar to recent crises in Bosnia, Mozambique, Somalia, southern Iraq, Sudan, and Rwanda, which resulted in over 2 million deaths. The amendment confirms existence of a significant constituency, which would not sustain Iraqi’s who achieved interim government, elected government, and a constitutional referendum on schedule. The amendment encourages Zarqawi and bin Laden to see an irresolute America and to persevere to implement the policy in the Zawahiri/Zaqawa letter identifying Iraq as the primary battlefield for terrorist victory and for spreading the Wahhabi/Salafi heresy.


15 posted on 11/26/2005 6:53:40 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: HAL9000
Yeah...sure. And I'm sure Murtha had his own press conference.


16 posted on 11/26/2005 6:54:17 PM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: Dr Snide
I agree with you--and, of course, there will be a pullout at some time. IMHO, if any of this is true, it's only because someone got a copy of a "plan" from somewhere.

Of course, the obvious thing is that plans can be changed, according to circumstances.

17 posted on 11/26/2005 6:55:43 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: HAL9000

Where is the Dems plan for Zarqawi to withdraw? That's what we should be asking. If they don't withdraw then kill them till they're dead and keep killing them. But that's just me.


18 posted on 11/26/2005 6:57:00 PM PST by Mr Cobol (.Liberalism isn't a political philosophy. It's a vile combination of sickness and evil—M Schiller)
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To: HAL9000
White House Plan:

1)"Devise plan to withdraw troops per public opinion polls and Dem pols"

2)Notify French press

19 posted on 11/26/2005 7:01:03 PM PST by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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To: HAL9000

Looks like the Dems are worried about a pullout plan being a big State of the Union part and want to get out in front. Combine that with another round of elections and they need to get on the winning side fast....but not give Bush any credit. Impossible.


20 posted on 11/26/2005 7:01:31 PM PST by byteback
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