Gang founder's death row drama gains star support

Associated Press ^ | 11/26/05 | LYNN ELBER

[neodad]

I almost feel sorry for the guy. Been there, done that.

[calrighty]

He pulled a Bush. He sat back on his laurels, and the unions spent 120,000,000 to defeat him. He still did and said nothing. He lost.

[Yaelle]

The only way to show you are truly repentant is to admit your crimes. Tookie committed those cruel, heinous murders and laughed about them. He has to this day never admitted it. His side says that he didn't get a fair trial. Mostly, they say that there were no blacks on the jury, which is not true. There was one black man on that jury. Most of his brain-dead supporters do not even know that.

Tookie must die. He is a murderer of 4, no doubt of many more for which he did NOT get caught. He is supposedly still very involved with the Crips, highly respected by them, from on Death Row, even. He won't go against the Crips because "it would be going against his own heart" or some such quote.

[combat_boots]

"Crips gang co-founder..."

Say no more. Explains everything.

[libs_kma]

Hey PooP Dog, hey Jamie Foxx, Hey Jason Alexandra, hey all the rest of you idiots. FU!!! The convict should FRY!!

[bethelgrad]

If he were a real man--truly repentent and wanted to impact would-be criminals in a positive way--he would confess his crimes and stop the appeals. Like that James Cagney movie where the priest talks him into going fruity on his way to the chair so his followers would stop reject him as a role model.

[gondramB]

"
You raise a good point. However, if those that say there is no intelligent design to the universe are correct then they don't have any intrinsic value. Their lives were meaningless and without purpose, arbitrary, mere accidents of random chance. Tookie was just practicing some social Darwinism, as would be expected."


Social order and consequences for murder are important no matter what one's religious beliefs or lack thereof.

I suppose true anarchists might disagree.

[papasmurf]

I lived with that crap for years. He was the founder of an unusually brutal, heinous, murderous group that preyed on others. I lost friends to the crips.

I would be ecstatic to inject this monster.

P

[hschliemann]

It makes me sick to think that Boxer and Feinstein made special trips to California to ensure that the locals knew that they supported the death penalty for a cop-killer earlier this year.If this guy Williams had killed a cop,he would fry."Kill government employee,get death,kill regular citizen(s),who gives a damn".Government flunkies looking out for their own.

[IronJack]

Schwarzenegger will cave.

[winner3000]

("If Stan Tookie Williams had been born in Connecticut in the same type of situation, and was a white man, he would have been running a company," Foxx told the AP when the film aired last year on FX. "But, born a black man who has the capability of having brute strength and the capability of being smart in the ways of the world, he's going to get into what he gets into.")

I'd like Foxx to name one white man found guilty of murdering someone who is running a company. This bigoted comment has made me watch my last Foxx movie.

[Czar]

"Having said that, I fully expect Schwarzenegger to grant clemency. If he doesn't, he'll be a pariah an unemployed governor in Hollywood."

If he's this much of a bleeding heart liberal, and he probably is, then he's done as governor. And since Hollywood dislikes him as well, it's pretty much over there as well.

I'm sure Maria and her family will help him find something to do.

God, what a disappointment this guy has turned out to be.

[ridesthemiles]

What's the theorized motive?""
Fundamental Muslims and Radical Muslims decry any use of alcohol. They appear to be going after the stores that sell it.

[oldenuff2no]

There is not way that a person, any person, can transform themselves from being a murderer into not being a murderer. No matter what else he is, he is a murderer. I believe that he would say or do anything to keep from being executed. He has been sentenced to die for his crimes. So be it.
Do you know what the death penalty will do in this case? It will stop him from murdering again. He will never be a repeat offender. That's a good thing!!!!!!!

[AmishDude]

Oh, of course. I didn't make a connection to the alcohol angle. And they figure that the Muslims that own the store are already too ostracized to fight back. They wouldn't attack a non-muslim-owned store. Sorry, I wasn't thinking.

I wonder if the owners were immigrants -- Arab or Pakistani.

[altura]

Can someone remind me why I despise Bishop Tutu?

I know I do, but I can't remember why.

[sofaman]

He's a joke. Somehow he made a name for himself during the apartheid era in South Africa as someone who did so much to bring about Black majority rule.

And he did absolutely nothing to bring about change in South Africa. I'm from South Africa originally...from Cape Town which is where Tutu led a congregation. He was a nothing in the fight against apartheid.

The beginning of the end came when Steve Biko was murdered in detention. All hell broke loose. Student demonstrations, followed by banning orders, including the banning of Donald Woods who was one of the kindest men I ever met. He and Steve Biko were very close friends. The movie Cry Freedom chronicles the events after Biko was murdered.

Tutu is an opportunist in the mold of Jesse HiJackson. When I think back, the death of Steve Biko was the seminal event that led to one man, one vote. The sad irony was that Biko was a pacifist. He rejected terrorism and violence as a means to force the country to adopt majority rule. His death was gruesome and very violent, and there was never a person that deserved it less.

Sorry for the long post, but Desmond Tutu gets on my last nerve.

[Yaelle]

So, Mister Foxx, if you are born with dark skin, you can murder 4 people of other races, because "you'll get into what you'll get into," and we should excuse it? But if you are born with white skin, and kill 3 Asians and one black in cold blood, for their cash, you should be put to death?

Please explain, Mister Foxx.

[Unicorn]

Hang him.

[altura]

Thanx so much. Tutu is one of the bishops revered by the Episcopal Church, of which I'm a member, whereas all the other African Bishops are dismissed as clueless primitives.