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Good Bye, Congressman Jim Kolbe
November 25, 2005 | Bob Haran

Posted on 11/25/2005 12:48:39 PM PST by Bob Haran

Regarding Congressman Jim Kolbe's decision not to run for reelection, in a word, "Hallelujah."

When someone retires or passes away, we try to say something nice about that person, we downplay his negatives and point out his positives. I would like to do the same for Congressman Jim Kolbe, but I really don't have the time to do that much research, other then to say, I wholeheartedly approve of his decision to leave Congress.

I'm sure Kolbe will be missed by Mexican President Vincente Fox, he is one of the best members of Congress Mexico has ever had in the United States.

Kolbe was one of the leading members of Congress responsible for the passage of NAFTA and CAFTA. NAFTA has resulted in the loss of thousands of American jobs to Mexico and CAFTA will help export American jobs to Central America. Kolbe is also a strong supporter of FTAA, (Free Trade Area of the America's), which will further lessen American sovereignty, advance globalism and cause the loss of even more American jobs.

I know that Kolbe's announcement will sadden cheap labor advocates, drug smugglers and traffickers in human beings.

What Congressman Tom Tancredo is to securing America's borders and controlling illegal immigration, Kolbe is to open borders and uncontrolled illegal immigration. The departure of Kolbe from Congress signifies the beginning of the removal from office of Members of Congress that are obstructing the securing of our borders and the enforcement of our immigration laws. Kolbe may be responsible for exporting American jobs but he has also helped to import; cheap labor, along with crime and poverty and the resulting cost to the taxpayer.

Republican social conservatives may be singing, "Happy days are here again,' on learning of his retirement. Jim Kolbe is the, only, openly, homosexual Republican in Congress. Kolbe is not only pro-abortion, he is one of the few Republicans to vote against the partial birth abortion ban. He will be surely missed by the gay community and Planned Parenthood.

In Kolbe's announcement, he states that he is, "Confident that he would win reelection if he chose to run." That statement would be true if he had no opponent in the Republican primary, but Kolbe did have a challenger for the GOP nomination for Congress from Southern Arizona.

Randy Graf, a former member of the Arizona House, had decided to challenge Mr. Kolbe for the GOP nomination. Graf's candidacy may have been the deciding factor in Kolbe's surprise decision, not to run for reelection, along with the passage of Proposition 200, which Kolbe had opposed.

Graf is everything Kolbe is not. Where Kolbe has become the poster boy for illegal immigration, Graf has become the poster boy for securing America's borders and was a leader behind the passage of Proposition 200. Where Kolbe is a pro-abortion liberal, Graf is a solid, pro-life, social conservative.

It seems that Jim Kolbe was reading the writing on the wall and figured that he is out of step with Republican voters in Southern Arizona and that this would be a good time to call it quits.

Bob Haran, Phoenix, AZ www.Bob-Haran.info


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 109th; arizona; arizonahouse; bob; bobharan; cafta; cz; ftaa; globalism; graf; haran; jim; jimkolbe; kolbe; nafta; proposition200; randy; randygraf; seeya; tom; tomtancredo; vincentefox
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1 posted on 11/25/2005 12:48:40 PM PST by Bob Haran
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To: Bob Haran
NAFTA has resulted in the loss of thousands of American jobs to Mexico and CAFTA will help export American jobs to Central America.

Yup. In the years since NAFTA passed the US has only created 20,000,000 new jobs. Household net worth is only $50 trillion dollars. Real disaster!! LOL!!

2 posted on 11/25/2005 1:00:01 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Bob Haran

"Jim Kolbe is the, only, openly, homosexual Republican in Congress."



The operative word there is "openly." The closet at the Republican cloakroom in the Capitol must be at full capacity.


3 posted on 11/25/2005 1:02:55 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I would really like to see your reference for your statements.. Companies moved to mexico and took the jobs with them. we lost jobs, but gained an illegal immigration problem. I do not consider minimum wage jobs, jobs. 20,000,000 jobs my arse.... Seen any stats on trade deficits compared to when Nafta kicked in?? Go back over and sit down...


4 posted on 11/25/2005 1:06:31 PM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

There was some speculation at the time Trent Lott capitulated on the terms for clinton's impeachment trial--agreeing that no witnesses or evidence would be permitted and thus guaranteeing that clinton would walk. Several unconfirmed stories said that Lott had an episode in his closet, which the clintons threatened to expose.


5 posted on 11/25/2005 1:09:09 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

One thing that really irritates me is the "Log Jammin Republicans".

For a group to get their name from a slanderous theory that damages the good name of the party founder is unconscionable.

I can't believe the Republican party even lets these people in the "big tent" when all they ever do is undermine our political strength.


6 posted on 11/25/2005 1:09:55 PM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

"The operative word there is "openly.' The closet at the Republican cloakroom in the Capitol must be at full capacity."

I, in the past, read here on FR serveral times that Lott and Graham are light in the loafers.

Any comments out there?


7 posted on 11/25/2005 1:17:21 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Cicero

I just read your comment after I posted. We seem to be on the same track.


8 posted on 11/25/2005 1:19:14 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

They both act like people being blackmailed by the Democrats, for what that's worth.

Hillary has everyone's file. The 900 FBI files that have been acknowledged are only the tip of the iceberg. I can't believe that she walked out of the White House with anything less than the entire FBI database.


10 posted on 11/25/2005 1:24:10 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: sit-rep
I would really like to see your reference for your statements..

Data extracted on: November 25, 2005 (4:20:26 PM)
Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey

Series Id:           LNS12000000
Seasonal Adjusted
Series title:        (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status:  Employed
Type of data:        Number in thousands
Age:                 16 years and over
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1993 119075 119275 119542 119474 120115 120290 120467 120856 120554 120823 121169 121464  
1994 121966 122086 121930 122290 122864 122634 122706 123342 123687 124112 124516 124721  
1995 124663 124928 124955 124945 124421 124522 124816 124852 125133 125388 125188 125088  
1996 125125 125639 125862 125994 126244 126602 126947 127172 127536 127890 127771 127860  
1997 128298 128298 128891 129143 129464 129412 129822 130010 130019 130179 130653 130679  
1998 130726 130807 130814 131209 131325 131244 131329 131390 131986 131999 132280 132602  
1999 133027 132856 132947 132955 133311 133378 133414 133591 133707 133993 134309 134523  
2000 136559(1) 136598 136701 137270 136630 136940 136531 136662 136893 137088 137322 137614  
2001 137771 137587 137799 137292 137098 136882 137082 136257 136849 136392 136232 136043  
2002 135693 136385 136211 136128 136549 136424 136429 136734 137310 137016 136511 136400  
2003 137429(1) 137365 137451 137628 137552 137775 137511 137593 137619 138022 138457 138409  
2004 138481(1) 138334 138408 138645 138846 139158 139639 139658 139527 139827 140293 140156  
2005 140241(1) 140144 140501 141099 141475 141638 142076 142449 142432 142646      
1 : Data affected by changes in population controls in January 2000, January 2003, January 2004, and January 2005.

 

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I stand corrected. Since November 1993 we've added 21.5 million jobs.

Companies moved to mexico and took the jobs with them. we lost jobs, but gained an illegal immigration problem.

You're correct, we had no illegal immigration before NAFTA. LOL!!

I do not consider minimum wage jobs, jobs.

You go girl.

20,000,000 jobs my arse...

Please, let's not talk about your arse on a thread about Jim Kolbe.

11 posted on 11/25/2005 1:28:09 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: moonshine mike

I'm sorry, MM, did you mean to address your post to me? You may have meant somebody else. I ask because I am not an authority on NAFTA or CAFTA.

My gut feeling is I don't like it. Intellectually I am not prepared to defend my "gut feeling."


12 posted on 11/25/2005 1:30:34 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Cicero

"They both act like people being blackmailed by the Democrats, for what that's worth."

You are exactly right!!! You hit the nail on the head.


13 posted on 11/25/2005 1:33:02 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); Cicero

I don't see the relevance...Lott and Graham are both Senators, not House Members, (though both used to be). House Member Kolbe is a self-proclaimed homosexual. The rest is speculation, is it not?

Lott could have something in his past, but he also has something the others mentioned do not have. He has a wife(a very attractive one) and a family. Now he could be "whatever", anyway, as we know, but how is anyone going to know that who only knows him as a public person? Hmmmmmm?

I must say his wife is most naive or passive and/or understanding, if she has been married to him all this time and bore and raised his children, and either not known if he were homosexual or put up with it if she knew.

Graham is a bachelor and somewhere near age 40. Raises more questions than Lott, in my view. But read on...

That said, I know of a man who has been looking for the right woman and the right situation until he is now 49 years old. He met a woman, once divorced with kids, in her thirties, and the guy is head over heels crazy for the gal. People who knew him all those years, including his own sister whom I am close friends with, say nothing has ever clicked for him before to this extent and he is anxious to marry his new love.

So, you can't always be certain about some things...


14 posted on 11/25/2005 1:39:34 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: Cicero

I hadn't heard about Lott, but I can think of a few others in the House and Senate about whom it is strongly rumored that they are homosexual. Of course, there are more closeted Democrat Congressmen than closeted Republican Congressmen, but if a closeted Democrat votes in favor of special rights for gays he or she will be voting for the Democrat platform, while closeted Republicans who vote for special rights for gays are voting against the GOP platform.

For the record, I don't care if a Republican Congressman is a closeted homosexual so long as he or she votes the right way and so long as he or she won't change his or her vote for fear of being outed.

And regarding Jim Kolbe, he could be straight as an arrow and be married with a dozen kids, but if he voted the way he voted (pro-partial-birth abortion, pro-special rights for gays, pro-open borders) I would have opposed him just as strongly.


15 posted on 11/25/2005 1:41:34 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Now post all the jobs that left and went to mexico, canada, and china...then we'll talk. Your survey is the talking point of the Nafta and Gatt crowd...show me some real stats, along with some showing the deficit increases since the early 90's, and I'll go sit down....


16 posted on 11/25/2005 1:42:55 PM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: moonshine mike

hello newbie!


17 posted on 11/25/2005 1:46:22 PM PST by digger48
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To: sit-rep
Now post all the jobs that left and went to mexico, canada, and china...then we'll talk.

Sorry, all I claimed was that we have 20,000,000 new jobs. I guess 80,000,000 old jobs could have gone to Mexico while 100,000,000 were created. Doesn't change the fact that we have 21,500,000 more jobs than we did before NAFTA.

Your survey is the talking point of the Nafta and Gatt crowd...

Not my survey, data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

...show me some real stats, along with some showing the deficit increases since the early 90's, and I'll go sit down....

Feel free to post whatever you'd like. Be sure to back it up like I did. Thanks.

18 posted on 11/25/2005 1:49:04 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

the fact is that a good portion of this country is dead. No construction goin on at all... Why do you suppose that is? Obviously you 20,000,000 new jobs are not in the fields of 10,000,000 american construction workers...


19 posted on 11/25/2005 1:53:16 PM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Well, I have a few homosexual friends, and as long as they keep it a private matter it's no business of mine.

The problem with a Republican politician, unfortunately, is that even if he keeps it private, it renders him vulnerable to blackmail.

Gary Aldrich points out in "Unlimited Access" that bill clinton broke all the security rules when he filled the White House with drug addicts, homosexuals, gangsters, and other eminently blackmailable people. It was a tremendous security risk to have that sort of people in key, sensitive positions. It used to be that homosexuality was grounds to refuse someone access to classified documents, because it was too much of a security risk.

In that sense, it's better to have open homosexuals in the Senate, because they can no longer be blackmailed. That's not a problem for the Democrats, but it remains a problem for most Republicans.


20 posted on 11/25/2005 1:54:09 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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