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To: dsc
"No, but the intervention of God in earthly affairs certainly is."

True, but in any event, as a Catholic, I'd very much prefer that people like Brownlee kindly exclude us Catholics from any association with creationism. As JPII said, faith must never conflict with reason. People like Brownlee wouldn't know reason if it bit them in the butt. I don't appreciate it one bit. She does not speak for Christianity and it's terribly arrogant for her to assume to do so. I hate it when people, especially politicians, do that.

255 posted on 11/25/2005 10:34:31 PM PST by DaGman
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To: DaGman

"I'd very much prefer that people like Brownlee kindly exclude us Catholics from any association with creationism. As JPII said, faith must never conflict with reason."

As I recall, though, he meant reason that is grounded in scientific knowledge, and not, broadly, any product of any person's reason.

While I agree with His Holiness regarding creationism, the God-haters are no more tolerant of us than they are of the YECs. With freedom of religion under attack, it might be better to make common cause with them to repel that onslaught, and hash out differences over dogma when the principal enemy is defeated.

"People like Brownlee wouldn't know reason if it bit them in the butt."

You and I are convinced that YECs are wrong, but at least Brownlee is able to discern an attack on freedom of religion when she sees it.

"She does not speak for Christianity and it's terribly arrogant for her to assume to do so."

I see it a bit differently. I welcome it when anyone speaks out against the attempt to ban God from the public square.

"I hate it when people, especially politicians, do that."

Hey, at least she's opposing the God-haters.


258 posted on 11/25/2005 10:48:13 PM PST by dsc
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