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KU prof's e-mail irks fundamentalists (Christian Bashing OK)
Wichita Eagle ^ | 25 Nov 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/25/2005 8:34:07 AM PST by Exton1

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To: grey_whiskers
Well, I have a theory. That is that mathematicians tend to go insane because their pay is too low.

Anybody else hear those voices?

321 posted on 11/26/2005 3:15:55 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: grey_whiskers
No, Kaczynski is the most well-known mathematician in the world. Certainly in this country.

Stable marriage problem

322 posted on 11/26/2005 3:17:50 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: RightWingNilla
You know, I didn't think that facetious ironic sarcasm was one of those high-order concepts. But I guess it's difficult to other people.

I don't use the term alchemy lightly. Much of science is unending promises. They never pan out or they promise much more than they can deliver. It's one fad after another. Now it's stem cells. Next it's something else. Much of it is little more than a big scam to keep the money flowing.

And don't get me started on the humanities.

323 posted on 11/26/2005 3:26:42 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: AmishDude
Much of it is little more than a big scam to keep the money flowing.

LOL. Yeah science is all a big scam. OK.

Meanwhile the brilliant starving math profs are sleeping in their Hyundais.

Poor poor AmishDude. He gets no respect. No respect at all.

The world is *so* unfair.

324 posted on 11/26/2005 3:42:30 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: AmishDude
Stem cell and cloning when looked into (beyond the media sensation and technological glamor) is not really anything else than Mengele science done at the microscopic level.

Wolf
325 posted on 11/26/2005 4:13:42 PM PST by RunningWolf (tag line limbo)
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To: js1138

"They mainly show up on the science and history channels."

In Yokohama, we don't get those.


326 posted on 11/26/2005 5:02:53 PM PST by dsc
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To: grey_whiskers

"I have never before had anyone raise the exact issues I was suggesting (albeit subtly) and think they were correcting me."

Whereas I have on numerous occasions seen people congratulate themselves for subtlety after wasting time on the obvious.


327 posted on 11/26/2005 5:17:49 PM PST by dsc
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To: dsc
"I have never before had anyone raise the exact issues I was suggesting (albeit subtly) and think they were correcting me."

Whereas I have on numerous occasions seen people congratulate themselves for subtlety after wasting time on the obvious.

Geez, and we're in substantial agreement. At the very least you could have posted one of those "Master of the Obvious" graphics if you were going to flame me.

Cheers!

328 posted on 11/26/2005 5:23:47 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: RightWingNilla
Look, the most I know about biology is that I solved one of their problems for them.

And the theorem I used was developed 30 years ago.

And it was developed in pure mathematics. Number theory, actually. It never would have been developed otherwise and the people studying phylogenetic trees would still be pursuing a dead end.

But, hey, it's all about me.

How scientific of you.

329 posted on 11/26/2005 5:25:05 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: Right Wing Professor

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pretendence

1 entry found for pretendence.
pretendence

\Pre*tend"ence\, n. The act of pretending; pretense. [Obs.] --Daniel.


330 posted on 11/26/2005 5:33:55 PM PST by dsc
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To: grey_whiskers

"At the very least you could have posted one of those "Master of the Obvious" graphics if you were going to flame me."

Do you intend to pretend that your "raise the exact issues" quip wasn't a flame?


331 posted on 11/26/2005 5:51:34 PM PST by dsc
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To: AmishDude
Well, my area requires proof so I do find the scientific method a bit lacking.

You mean, like the original proof of the four-color theorem?

332 posted on 11/26/2005 6:14:18 PM PST by donh
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To: donh

The Appel and Haken proof was always viewed with suspicion. The subsequent revision was more easily checked.


333 posted on 11/26/2005 6:17:50 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: AmishDude
The math behind Brownian motion is solid.

I'm curious as to what math is necessary to say that particles move and collide randomly?

334 posted on 11/26/2005 6:20:41 PM PST by donh
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To: donh

"Randomly" is ill-defined. Brownian motion is defined from four axioms. Two that I recall are "everywhere continuous" and "nowhere differentiable".


335 posted on 11/26/2005 6:23:34 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: AmishDude
But, hey, it's all about me.

It must get lonely at the "top of the intellectual food chain".

336 posted on 11/26/2005 6:23:46 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: RightWingNilla
It must get lonely at the "top of the intellectual food chain".

Indeed, but one never gets hungry.

337 posted on 11/26/2005 6:25:56 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: AndrewC; AmishDude
Mathematics is all things

I really think it starts with logic, but that was what my philosophy professor stated, and he was biased. In any case, without those two, everything else would be merely polemics.

Shhesh. I think it all starts with sharpened rocks. Arrowsmiths are the centerposts of civilized discourse and understanding--academics are merely entertainers who ride on the backs of arrowsmiths.

338 posted on 11/26/2005 6:30:29 PM PST by donh
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To: RightWingNilla

"It must get lonely at the "top of the intellectual food chain".

I'm sure it is. For pure, abstract brain-power, mathematicians stand alone. I can't do it, but I do admire it.

The only part of any of the hard sciences I ever had any problem with was the mathematics. That includes organic chemisty and a graduate-level course in molecular genetics(both of which I took as electives, just for giggles).


339 posted on 11/26/2005 6:31:01 PM PST by dsc
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To: dsc; AmishDude
I'm sure it is.

Amish, you have the beginnings of a fan club here.

340 posted on 11/26/2005 6:33:33 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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