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To: KC Burke

Its not the science teachers that push this conflict. It is those teachers of the liberal arts that wish to marginalize religion, western tradition and our heritage in general to promote a quasi-religious secular humanism and the leftist view of the world in general.

Then take the fight to the liberal arts teachers. You have my full support there. If this is what you really object to, then leave science in general and biology in particular out of it. You will only hurt your cause by trying to take the fight there.

34 posted on 11/25/2005 8:12:19 AM PST by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
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To: ml1954
Then take the fight to the liberal arts teachers. You have my full support there. If this is what you really object to, then leave science in general and biology in particular out of it. You will only hurt your cause by trying to take the fight there.

First of all, as I had hoped my post made clear, I wasn't supportive of the State Board beginning this fight in general. I was, however, stating that many generally conservative people thought that because the pedulumn had swung too far in the anti-Christian direction in general that such a bludgeon was to be expected and, perhaps, almost necessary if we are to control our own children's education.

My son is a Kansas science teacher. I have nothing but true sympathy for what they have been put through. But even he has said that since he rarely teaches biology, he sees this is a fight outside his field and that it is being waged on the social science and political field of battle. Neutrons, fulcrums and metamorphic rock don't eveolve through natural selection might be his view now that this is seen for a battle outside the field of most science and even really outside the field of biology when you look at the true causes.

I have always understood my religous views as not being in conflict with my religous views. I have also felt that the problem of leftist propoganda being taught should be faced head-oin rather than in the oblique. But there is something to be said for the fact that before a student is developed enough to understand the issues of rationalism, Secular Humanism and the like, he as already been led, and even forced to "choose" science "or" religion rather than making the understanding that most religious people have made since the time of Thomas Aquinas: that the two aren't really in conflict.

43 posted on 11/25/2005 8:56:34 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: ml1954; narby
There is a nice article about the Aquinas view of the arguement at this link. Of course, as Aquinas was prior to the reformation, all Christians can profit by his insight.
49 posted on 11/25/2005 9:27:49 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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