Posted on 11/25/2005 1:35:30 AM PST by kipita
I assume you believe Natalee Holloway deserved what she got ?
Right! Blame the victim, Joe.
When you drink do you lose control?
My recollection is that they were not white. Does that change your perspective ?
conflicting testimony so far
One defense attorney, Jose Justiniano, said his American client was "somewhere in Olongapo" and had been prepared to challenge the testimony of the woman and the driver of the van, who claimed the Marine was among the six involved in the alleged rape inside the moving vehicle. The woman and the driver also did not appear at the hearing.
Justiniano said two of the Marines named in the complaint have witnesses who can corroborate they were in another location when the alleged attack occurred, but he declined to be more specific.
more info
A 22-year-old woman has claimed the Americans gang-raped her in the Subic Freeport on November 1.
During the proceedings defense lawyers urged prosecutor Prudencio Jalandoni to accept as evidence tapes and transcripts of radio interviews with Timoteo Soriano, a van driver who initially said he witnessed the rape.
The lawyers cited radio interviews in which Soriano said that Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority security chief Paquito Torres coerced him into linking the Americans—even though he had never seen the alleged rape.
Torres, who was at the proceedings, denied using coercion and invoked his right to counsel.
The prosecutor ordered radio stations to submit copies and transcripts of the interview with Soriano detailing the alleged coercion.
Bullshit! These soldiers have seats next to GOD in my view. All soldiers do. These men and women in uniform are far more elevated in the status of respect than I give any other human beings...even cops. These guys get shot at 100 times a day, grenades thrown at them, people running up to them with bombs strapped to them selves, live in dirt, take a shower once a week...maybe, eat out of a bag, sleep in a truck, or on the ground. And you say "keep it in your pants"????? If I had the money, I'd charter a 777 and stop in PI, Pataya Beach, then Singapore, load the hell out of the plane and fly it to Iraq so these guys can have some R&R... My God, they could be dead tomorrow!
This girl was hangin' with six Marines in PI!!!! She was not a choir girl at the local church. This type of thing is VERY common there....whether there is ten guys, and one girl, or ten girls and one guy... Throw in a basket and there is not much other one can think about for a few hours. And dammit, if anyone is deserving of "Military custom" type of R&R, it is our boys doing something over there that not too many people off our streets would consider doing. They're too busy sitting back in the luxury and safety of their homes and computer chair passing judgment on a small group of folks who I believe should be exempt from civilian brow beating...what gives anyone the right unless they them selves are over there walking on the edge of DEATH??!!??!!??
You, and others who passed judgment on these guys with out even hearing their side of the story, I think is pretty damn piss poor to say the least.
I have read somewhere that they are Caucasian.
Give them a fair trial and a fast hanging.
Hang 'em high and all their perp defenders with them.
I will tell you why I do not believe this story. In PI, a twenty dollar bill will get you drunk, eats, a hotel, and female companionship and in the morning you may have to pull out the next twenty dollar bill for breakfast depending on your consumption the night before. Gettin laid in PI is too easy to have to rape... I sat back and read this article and laughed because of the way it is there...who the hell needs to rape anyone?? Girls will give it up for five bucks!
Very, very well said. If I had been blogging as long as you have I'd probably be less diplomatic and more.......well as you said it.
With all do respect, please read comment #27 again.
bttt...
.....any woman who gets drunk with six men/soldiers then leaves with them is pretty sure what will follow and she has already made up her mind. She has a choice walk with them or walk away from them.
If however she is grabed by any of them as she walks away, it is rape!
Agree 150%....
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