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Russian precision flying team to be deactived
Argumenty i Fakty (Arguments & Facts), #45 (1306) November 2005. Page 10. | November 2005 | Vladimir Svartsevich

Posted on 11/24/2005 12:52:04 PM PST by struwwelpeter

Original Title: Who ordered the destruction of 'Rus'?

Russian aces ask help from the president of Russia

Soon the precision flying group 'Rus' - one of the best in the world - may be deactivated. Is this a NATO plot? Or the army's slackness?

V. Troyanov, who crashed our Su-27 on Lithuania, did it out of inexperience: this year the combat pilot had only 14 hours of flight training.

Our aerial borders are watched by NATO aces who have 2-3 thousand flying hours. Compared to them, our Russian combat pilots are but 'green horns'.

We have an excellent flight school in Vyazma, which can train pilots as good as NATO's, but it is all wrecked by the government's indifference. Pilots of the precision flying group 'Rus' are being ruined on the ground. They demonstrate their aerial mastery in Russia and overseas, flying on 'socialism's wings' - on Czech L-39 flight trainers. These days, only two aircraft are flight-worthy: the rest have had engine parts removed. The cost of a major overhaul - 100 million rubels (3 million dollars). This is but one private residence in the exclusive Rublevka neighborhood. The pilots at the Vyazma flight training center, where 'Rus' is based, have no resources of their own. The fact of the matter is that for 15 years 'Rus' has not received a kopeck from the government treasury, nor has there been funds for training new pilots for the Russian air force. Money for 'holding up their pants' - demonstration flights of the 'Rus' flight group - they earn themselves.

Engine overhauls can prolong the life of an L-39 by ten years. That means that a minimum of 300 pilots can be trained.

'Rus' has collosal experience. In existance for 45 years, the Vyazma air center ROSTO (formerly DOSAAF) is the last of the 27 centers built up during the heat of the Cold War, and has trained over 5000 pilots for military and civil aviation.

A drunk pilot - that's classy!

The team of masters called 'Rus' was formed 8 years ago, and at the time cost 20 million dollars. Few are able to carry out a synchronous flight of 9 aircraft at 800 km/hr, when the minimum wing distance is 1.5 to 3 meters, while the maneuver step is but 50 cm. Pilots tell how during the maneuver their blood does not even know which way to flow, from head to feet or vice-versa. The g-forces press the pilot into his seat with a force of 800-900 kg.

At the end of a program called 'Rusichi', they demonstrated a landing called 'the drunk pilot': the aircraft takes a height of 8-15 meters, shakes it's nose and tail up and down, while at the same time turning the fuselage to the left and right. It is not a sight for those with weak nerves.

Only old timers 'go to war'

Chief of the flight training center, instructor pilot first class and sportmaster, Reserve Colonel Kazimir Tikhonovich (age 55): After the Soviet Union fell apart, we were out of work, but we got some cadets from the Belarus military academy. For 8 years we trained young people for our neighbors, retraining them from reciprocating engine to jet aviation. They paid us 500 thousand dollars a year for the training. An hour of flight training costs 24 thousand rubels.

"Poor and skinny, but we survived, not getting a single kopeck from the government. They let us earn our keep - if in the interests of the Russian defense ministry and the security of Russia.

"For the last two years we've been tasked with training young pilots from the Russian air forces. In order to sit down inside a combat aircraft, one needs about 200-250 hours of flying. To fly combat aircraft such as the Su-27, MiG-29, etc. it costs 12-15 thousand dollars. Our L-39 can do all sorts of combat maneuvers for only 800 dollars. Can you feel a difference?

"Now Russian air force captains come to us for training without any qualifications. It's clear that there's no way they should be let near combat aircraft. They are sort of like pilots, but without any combat skill."

Soloist from the precision flying group 'Rus', instructor pilot and master of sport, Valeriy Sobolev (age 43): "I've been in aviation for 20 years, 14 of them on the 'Rus' team, I'm already a flying retiree. On the flying team 'Patroule de France', a pilot only flies for 5-6 years. Specialists indicate that 3-4 years of precision flying causes many psychological problems. But we keep flying until 'the sands run out of the hourglass'. We've got no one to replace us. Who would join us? For such a silly salary, 300 dollars a month?

"Today they send us to the grave, and tomorrow - 'Strizhi' or 'Russkie Vityazi'? We're buying used aircraft and Boeings. Don't be surprized if pretty soon you see foreign mercenaries at the helms of passenger aircraft. They'll fly the Russian skies, while Russian pilots fall to their native earth. The pilot of the wrecked Su-27 was a good guy! He knew to fly the aircraft out of the city. But what if he didn't?! It wasn't his fault that he ruined the aircraft. It was the fault of his commanders, of those who gave the orders. But they simply don't have any other pilots!

"Who would hire us in civil aviation?" he concludes. "Who would we trust with our lives in the air?"

Kazimir Tikhonovich continues: "On civilian aircraft the commander sits in the left-hand seat - he is a wise, experienced pilot who has flown for a long time, but he's already old. There could be a health problem in flight: a stroke, a heart attack, or heaven forbid, diarrhea. Then the second pilot takes over. But what if he's a 'green horn'?

"A pilot with little flight training is more dangerous than a terrorist on board! In the last 20 years, almost no pilot in (Russian) civil aviation has received instruction in in-flight emergencies.

"That's why I fly on civilian aircraft only with trepidation. And when the aircraft shakes or the pilot makes an unprofessional maneuver, I wonder if I should go break into the cabin."

Vladimir SVARTSEVICH,
Vyazma - Moscow


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aviation; civilaviation; rus; russia

From the print version of the monthly, 'Arguments and Facts', and the article for some reason is absent from the web version. I'll send a scan of the original to anyone interested.

The article states in one paragraph that 'Rus' was formed 8 years ago, while in another it states that a pilot was with them for 14 years, and that for 15 years they haven't received funding. Other than this confusion with dates, it's an interesting article.

1 posted on 11/24/2005 12:52:04 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: struwwelpeter

I guess they did not want to perform the short show......


2 posted on 11/24/2005 12:57:58 PM PST by cmsgop ( Bill Clinton's License Plate..... "Herpes 1")
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To: struwwelpeter

Ronald Reagan your the man


3 posted on 11/24/2005 1:02:03 PM PST by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: struwwelpeter
"In the last 20 years, almost no pilot in (Russian) civil aviation has received instruction in in-flight emergencies."

I'm sorry, but this could not possibly be true. Well, he did say almost and there's a lot of wiggle room in that.

4 posted on 11/24/2005 1:04:55 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: struwwelpeter

Since the old and experienced pilot could have "...a health problem in flight: a stroke, a heart attack, or heaven forbid, diarrhea" - he should be flying while sitting on a flushable toilet, and with his pants down. This will address the problem mentioned by Kazimir Tikhonovich.
P.S. "voe to those who are bunking next ..."


5 posted on 11/24/2005 1:12:01 PM PST by GSlob
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To: struwwelpeter

Go to the website and check out the videos. Well worth it.

6 posted on 11/24/2005 1:26:52 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: DJ Taylor

The article quotes the pilot as stating: "v poslednie 20 let letchiki grazhdanskoy aviatsii pochti ne prokhodyat podgotovku po povedeniyu v ehkstremal'noy situatsii" and that could translate to 'in the last 20 years pilots of civilian aviation almost do not pass through training in conduct in an extreme situation' which I cleaned up to 'in the last 20 years, almost no pilot in (Russian) civil aviation has received instruction in in-flight emergencies'.

Perhaps there's a nuance I'm missing.

7 posted on 11/24/2005 1:37:41 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: struwwelpeter

Sad.


8 posted on 11/24/2005 1:45:22 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: 1rudeboy

Jurgis and his Su-26 put on quite a show. I liked the 'hazards of airshows' ;-)


9 posted on 11/24/2005 1:50:37 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: 1rudeboy

Cool stuff!!!


10 posted on 11/24/2005 1:55:13 PM PST by blastdad51 (Proud father of an Enduring Freedom vet, and friend of a soldier lost in Afghanistan)
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To: 1rudeboy
Yes, that's some kind of flying.

(Wow!!)

11 posted on 11/24/2005 2:06:19 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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L-39s of Team 'Rus', Zhukovskiy 2001. Copyright Hugo Mambour/AviaScribe 2002

Russian Knights display team, Zhukovskiy 2001. Copyright Hugo Mambour/AviaScribe 2002

Russian Swifts display team, Zhukovskiy 2001. Copyright Hugo Mambour/AviaScribe 2002

12 posted on 11/24/2005 2:45:09 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: struwwelpeter

The only nuance your translation is missing is the misplacement of the word "almost": it is not "almost no pilot...", but rather "almost no training". It should have been: "During last 20 years the pilots in Russian civil aviation have been receiving almost no [better would be "next to no"] instruction on the handling of in-flight emergencies."


13 posted on 11/24/2005 4:33:47 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Peanut Gallery; SAMWolf; Valin; alfa6; Iris7; Darksheare

ping


14 posted on 11/24/2005 5:05:06 PM PST by Professional Engineer (My name is Ralph.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Hi ya Mr. PE :-)

Say howdy to the clan for me, if I was at home I could post some nice L-39 & MiG-29 pics.

Ah the joys of having to work on a holiday

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


15 posted on 11/24/2005 5:36:34 PM PST by alfa6
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To: struwwelpeter
Sad info :((

Some Russian pilots fly with tourists for money: www.incredible-adventures.com
16 posted on 11/24/2005 11:35:29 PM PST by mym (Russia - motherland of elephants)
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To: Professional Engineer
Had a chance to go over one of these big guys pretty closely years ago at Oshkosh. The landing gear are interesting. The engines spool quickly. Structure looks sound. Hydraulics need better parts.

Antonov 124

The pilot brought the engines to full power, released the brakes, and get into the air in one an a half aircraft lengths. The pilot was very skilled, flying figure 8s over the airport at about 800 feet. He just rolled quickly into a 50 - 55 degree bank, did the loop, got to the cross over point and rolled the other way, 100 - 110 degree rolls. No change in altitude, engines sounded about half thrust. A very few bobbles caught immediately. Dangerous and very impressive.

That pilot would be in his fifties nowadays.

17 posted on 11/25/2005 4:17:37 AM PST by Iris7 ("Let me go to the house of the Father.")
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To: DJ Taylor
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18 posted on 12/03/2005 8:21:44 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DJ Taylor

19 posted on 12/03/2005 8:27:15 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Iris7
That's the bird Lockheed used to fly it's titans out of DIA.

I knew the transport driver who said that though the titan's bairly fit, it sure beat driving from Denver to Florida.
20 posted on 12/03/2005 8:30:30 PM PST by spaatzcadet
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