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To: Mazepa
These are some serious question which would require more research on my part (I hope you're asking because you're interested in this matter, and not just pulling my leg.) For now I'd just say that it happened, that metropolitan of Kyiv was established, then some centuries later it was subjected to Russia.

I am not pulling your leg. And I will be interested if you find something different than I have found (things like that metropolitan see was moved from Kiev to Vladimir in 1299 etc).

36 posted on 11/26/2005 1:55:58 PM PST by A. Pole (Marcus Lucanus: "Pigmies placed on the shoulders of giants see more than the giants themselves.")
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To: A. Pole
A friend of mine has an "Encyclopedia of Ukraine" and under "Church, history" there is a detailed account. To summorize it- metropolitan of Kyiv moves to Moscow. Shortly after, in 1302, Halych (Galicia) demands its own metropolitan from the the Greeks and gets it. Lithuanians get one as well. All three claim the Kyiv region. When Galicia is conquered by Poles in mid 14th cent. Halych church folds. 1350s- Lithuania and Moscow redivide again and the Greek patriarch grants Moscow most of modern day Ukraine and Lithuania today's W. Ukraine. 1371 Poles, in control of Halych, demand form Greeks and are granted the re-establishment of Halych metropoly (they get the W. Ukrainian lands). Lithuanians demand and if understand the text correctly are granted the jurisdiction over Kyiv, Smolensk, Tver, Nizhni Novgorod. In 1373 a Serbian monk Cyprian became ordained as "the metropolitan of Kyiv" and moved to Moscow in 1389. He managed to unite Lithuanian and Galician metropolies under him. (ie. ONE church). In 1414 Lithuanians attempt to create a new metropoly for themselves and elect Tsamblak, but in Greece he is not recognized. Tsamblak takes over Polatsk, Smolensk, modern day Volyn and some of Galicia. He is excomunicated by the Greeks but it's ignored. I gather eventually relations are normalized and metropolitan of this church attends the council of Florence in 1439, signing that union. Russians do their autocephaly in 1448, have the title of "metropolitan of Moscow and all Rus'. In Poland-Lithuania, 1458, a new metropolitan is appointed, titled "of Kyiv and an all Rus'. Then a series of metropolitans are followed.

In 1595 Orthodox church (the bishops) are split, Uniate is created and proclaimed in 1596. Anti-Uniates have their own assembly. Catholic repression of Orthodox begins. Cossack revolt in 1620 leads to a creation of a new Orthodox patriarch in Kyiv consecrated by the Patriarch of Jerusalem. Uniate versus Orthodox conflict continues, with some attempts at reconciliation. Mohyla (a very well known name in Ukraine) is elected a metropolitan of Kyiv in 1633. He died in 1647. Khmelnytsky revolution followed. Then in 1686, for a price of 200 coins and 120 furs, Patriarchate Dionysios transferred the control of the Kyiv metropolitan from Greek to Moscow's jurisdiction. (May he &^#$@&^@&^^) Phew, got tired.
You're welcome.

47 posted on 11/27/2005 3:31:29 PM PST by Mazepa
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