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To: pageonetoo

I asked because you said in your post that we can't pick and choose which parts of scripture to believe and practice.

If we are not going to ignore scripture then we must accept I COR 13:8 as well as(not sure which version you copied) but in KJV it says...

1Cr 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether [there be] prophecies, they shall fail; whether [there be] tongues, they shall cease; whether [there be] knowledge, it shall vanish away.

Fail &vanish away are the same Greek word but different than the Greek word for cease. It doesn't tell us they will all go away at the same time.

I personally know a woman who went on a mission trip to Mexico as an interpreter. She had become a bit discouraged due to the fact she was not familiar with the dialect in the region where they went. When the church service began she was amazed to hear herself speaking the very words and new words in the dialect of the people. Several souls repented that night. It was an apparent moving of the Lord that occurred that night and she has never experienced since that time. Situations like this one imo are more similar to the event on the day of Pentecost than what is done by many who "speak in tongues" today.


64 posted on 11/24/2005 8:08:19 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: tutstar

Obviously what happened on the day of Pentacost was miraculous, not the least of which was the fact that spectators heard the apostles praising God in a variety of local langauges presumably unknown to the apostles.

Nothing in the New Testament garantees this will happen, or denies that it can't happen again.

I've heard other similar stories, but too many non believers persist in the notion that tongues are for preaching to others when clearly that is not the intent.

But every story I have ever heard of this has the bystanders all saying that the speaker was praising God.


67 posted on 11/24/2005 8:16:37 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: tutstar; Nightshift; All

A little more detail on the measure from imb's site.

SELECTION MEASURES ADOPTED

During their plenary session, trustees approved a policy opposing a missionary candidate’s practice of using a “private prayer language.” The vote was 25-18 with some trustees not voting.

Issues of the policy involve missionary candidate qualifications known as “Southern Baptist Identity.” Those qualifications state candidates must: (1) be committed to and identified with Southern Baptists; (2) hold a conviction of truth as expressed in the “Baptist Faith and Message” of the Southern Baptist Convention; (3) possess a minimum of three years’ tenure as a Southern Baptist; and (4) have current membership in a Southern Baptist church.

“In terms of worship practices, the majority of Southern Baptist churches do not practice glossolalia (speaking in tongues),” states the policy approved by trustees as a framework for the Office of Mission Personnel staff to use with new candidates regarding a private prayer language.

The policy also says the New Testament speaks of glossolalia as a gift that “generally is considered to be a legitimate language of some people group,” and adds that “prayer language as commonly expressed by those practitioners is not the same as the biblical use of glossolalia.” Also, the policy says the Apostle “Paul’s clear teaching is that prayer should be made with understanding.”

“In terms of general practice, the majority of Southern Baptists do not accept what is referred to as ‘private prayer language,’” the policy further states. “Therefore, if ‘private prayer language’ is an ongoing part of his or her conviction and practice, the candidate has eliminated himself or herself from being a representative of the IMB of the SBC.”

The policy is not retroactive and is designed to be followed beginning Nov. 15, the day of its adoption.

Regarding a candidate’s baptism, trustees voted two to one to establish a guideline that specifies (1) believer’s baptism by immersion; (2) baptism follows salvation; (3) baptism is symbolic, picturing the experience of the believer’s death to sin and resurrection to a new life in Christ; (4) baptism does not regenerate; and (5) baptism is a church ordinance.

The guideline establishes that candidates must have been baptized in a Southern Baptist church or in a church of another denomination that practices believer’s baptism by immersion alone. Also, the baptism must not be viewed as sacramental or regenerative, and the church must embrace the doctrine of the security of the believer.

The guideline says the candidate is responsible to meet this doctrinal commitment. While the IMB candidate consultant should have a working knowledge of other denominational groups, the document says he is not expected to investigate every church.

Trustees voted that any exception to either the policy on a private prayer language or the baptism guideline must be reviewed by IMB staff and the board’s Process Review Committee.


http://www.imb.org/core/story.asp?storyID=3487&Language%20ID=1709


138 posted on 11/24/2005 2:20:11 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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