I am not stuck on anything, I am just holding to what God says, and tongues today are not genuine languages.
that means they are nonsense, and no one is getting edified by the repitition of meaningless sounds and swaying back and forth and phony miracles and chanting and phony gold dust and phony laughing revival and the false idea that the US is in revival of some kind.
Sorry to roll that all into one heap, but all those things are errors that the modern Charismatic movement is involved in, not just the false spiritual gifts thing.
Did God tell you that tongues today are not genuine? No? Didn't think so.
that means they are nonsense, and no one is getting edified by the repitition of meaningless sounds and swaying back and forth and phony miracles and chanting and phony gold dust and phony laughing revival and the false idea that the US is in revival of some kind.
There is no logic here. Perhaps what you have seen is imitations or wrongly used, but just because you haven't seen the results of proper teaching and applicaion does not mean that it doesn't exist.
Sorry to roll that all into one heap, but all those things are errors that the modern Charismatic movement is involved in, not just the false spiritual gifts thing.
And I'm not going to disagree with you on that. There is a great deal of erroneous teaching regarding this whole area. There were similar problems back when Paul wrote his letter to the Corinthians.
Peter and Paul's (as well as other disciples) doctrine resulted in signs miracles and wonders amongst those who heard and believed. Peter's shadow cured people! Back then the Christian believers manifested the power of God's holy spirit.
Today's Christian church is relatively impotent.
Why?
Partially due to improper doctrine and heaping amounts of disbelief.
Our exchange in an example of that.
I exhort and encourage people to read the New Testament, believe it and apply it while you are telling me and others that it is wrong to do so.
I've known thousands of people who spoke in tongues, interpreted, prophesied, had word of knowledge, word of wisdom discerning of spirits, faith, miracles and healing...thousands who believed what the Bible said.
Those who believe do it; those who do not believe do not.
If you are not doing, check what you are believing.
I might not buy the whole package that tongues are "ceased" (again, I lean toward that view, but am not solid), but the sentence above needs to be stated in all caps with flashing HTML code.
One of the most disturbing things about some movements today is the insistence that we are actually now in the midst of revival. That is simply the silliest thing I have ever heard of, and only someone hopelessly bereft of any knowledge of what real revival looks like would say such a thing.
Thanks for the retort, very clear and interesting.