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To: Torie

When Heraclius was emperor at the time of the Muslim conquest the Byzantines still ruled Italy and the south of Spain. My supposition is that had the Byzantines held against the initial Arab attack they would've extended their rule across Western Europe (in particular Gaul) long before the Crusades. It was due to the post-Arab decline that Italy was lost by the Byzantines (and of course the Muslims conquered Spain).


245 posted on 11/23/2005 11:04:05 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv

I don't view France as a southeastern province.


246 posted on 11/23/2005 11:09:03 PM PST by Torie
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To: AntiGuv

By the way, have a great Thanksgiving. I am retiring to the desolation of the desert for three days, to ponder the works of Mohammed.


249 posted on 11/23/2005 11:11:18 PM PST by Torie
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To: AntiGuv

I'm referring to Egypt and Syria as the southeastern provinces. Had the Byzantines not lost Egypt and Syria, they should've been able to hold Italy and Spain. It was the loss of Egypt and Syria that cast Byzantium into two centuries of decline.


250 posted on 11/23/2005 11:11:34 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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