Archaeologists Find 4,500-Year-Old Fortune-Telling Instruments

Xinhuanet/China View ^ | 11-23-2005

[blam]

Archaeologists find 4,500-year-old fortune-telling instruments

www.chinaview.cn 2005-11-23 19:09:12

BEIJING, Nov. 23 (Xinhuanet) -- A Chinese archaeologist said Wednesday that a 4,500-year-old jade tortoise and an oblong jade article discovered in east China's Anhui Province were China's earliest fortune-telling instruments found so far.

The two jade objects were discovered in an ancient tomb in Lingjiatan Village, Hanshan County, Anhui Province.

Gu Fang, an expert with the jadeware research committee under the China Society of Cultural Relics, told Xinhua that the jade tortoise is made up of a back shell and a belly shell. Several holes can be found on the jade tortoise.

The oblong jade article, 11 cm long and 8.2 cm wide, was found between the back shell and the belly shell when the objects were excavated from the tomb. A pattern of some broken lines was carved on the oblong jade article.

"They were obviously not objects used in daily life, nor adornment, but instruments used in religious activities," said Gu.

He said the holes between the back and belly shells of the jade tortoise show that something might be put inside. And there should have been strings threading through the holes.

"It reminds us the action of dicing. Only when the strings were unfastened could the situation of the objects inside the jade tortoise be seen," Gu said.

Archaeologists inferred that the jade tortoise is an ancient instrument used to practise divination ahead of important activities.

During the Shang Dynasty, some 1,000 years later than the time of the Lingjiatan tomb, it was popular to use real tortoise shells to practise divination to foretell good or bad luck.

The pattern on the oblong jade article has also drawn the attention of archaeologists. Many experts said the pattern might be the origin of the "bagua" or Eight Trigrams, the eight combinations of three whole or broken lines which were used by ancient Chinese people in their divination. Enditem

[blam]

GGG Ping.

No pictures.

[SlowBoat407]

The arrangement of the fortune telling implements revealed the last fortune they told: Don't listen to Mao.

[Names Ash Housewares]

Perhaps they would be useful to find Kerry's plan he was always talking about.

[Names Ash Housewares]

"The arrangement of the fortune telling implements revealed the last fortune they told: Don't listen to Mao."


Perhaps the fortune was "in millenia to come the people will make a deal with the "great Bubba" for secrets of the weapon of the burning sun"

[mtbopfuyn]

Interesting. Wish there were pictures.

Or it could be one of a thousand items. Perhaps a locket. Why is it everything that's dug up MUST represent something religious or an ancient belief? Several years ago in Reader's Digest there was a story about finding ancient bodies which were reclining while worshiping a square object in a room. The sacrificial room was connected to the main room and contained a body which was placed in a burial container. Turns out it was in future-tense and a hotel room with a tv and a connecting bathroom.

[Political Junkie Too]

Did it look like this?

-PJ

[Salamander]

[sgtbono2002]

4500 year old fortune telling equipment. That must mean Fortune telling is the worlds second oldest profession.

[Political Junkie Too]

I think it was this machine:

-PJ

[RetSignman]

On the bottom: Made in Taiwan

[jb6]

Looks good for her age, doesn't she?

[Salamander]

hee hee ;]

[C210N]

4,500-Year-Old Fortune-Telling Instruments...

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Blam.

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[Dustbunny]

Wish they had pictures.