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To: muawiyah
Hey, you sure got it backwards. The young lady asked NON-Christians to come forward. Christians have already done so previously and have no need to. The young lady turned 100% of her attention to others.

Yeah, but non-Christians tend to not like that. They seem to think that it implies that their religion is inferior. And believe it or not, a lot of people don't think a graduation ceremony is the place to promote religious exclusionism. Go figure.

BTW, Christians are required to call folks to Christ. Other groups look at proselytizing as being somehow dirty.

It's not dirty at all. It's a religious calling. But that doesn't mean you gotta constantly scream it at the top of your lungs every chance you get, or that other people should be forced to listen to you.

Obviously conflict might occur from time to time, but when a Christian accepts you to accept the Lord he is hardly excluding you.

You are 100% correct on that. Neither is a Muslim who may try to convert you or me to Islam. But speaking for myself, I'd get pissed about something like that if it was allowed at a public graduation ceremony. So that's where I'm coming from on this

The government does not have the authority under our Constitution to prohibit this sort of thing.

Like I say, I'm not talking about a freedom of speech issue. She has the right to speak, but that does not mean that it's OK for her to inject her own agenda into a publicly-funded event. The right to free speech doesn't include a publicly-financed microphone and podium.

There is no greater, more uplifting moment in a person's entire life than the moment they welcome God into their life, and I have. But I have Jewish friends that would get really upset if something like this happened, and I wouldn't blame them.

103 posted on 11/23/2005 11:27:02 AM PST by Kenton (Muslims want to play by their own version of "girls' rules")
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To: Kenton
You are asking for two answers. One answer is "Why sure, their religious are, in fact, inferior, so what?".

Someone else will do that one.

My answer is "Only if they feel that way themselves".

I've been offered many opportunities to join neighbors in prayer at some of the local mosques. I've even been asked to join a Lubovitch prayer group.

Doesn't make me feel my religion is inferior.

114 posted on 11/23/2005 11:32:55 AM PST by muawiyah (u)
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To: Kenton

"But I have Jewish friends that would get really upset if something like this happened, and I wouldn't blame them."

Good let them get upset - that is their right and if they want to start a different University just for Jews that is also their right. People can and do get upset for anything - so perhaps it would be better to ban speeches altogether right? That way we dont offend anyone. Or perhaps people who are a minority of the population could disregard what is being said and put into context. She didnt attack anyone and other religions who would be upset about this are just looking for a reason to bash Chriistians and free speech.


115 posted on 11/23/2005 11:33:25 AM PST by sasafras ("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom.)
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