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Nigergate: The shadow of the French inspector
IL GIORNALE ^ | November 23, 2005

Posted on 11/23/2005 10:03:41 AM PST by parnasokan

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1 posted on 11/23/2005 10:03:43 AM PST by parnasokan
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To: parnasokan

somehow I don't the the term "Nigergate" is going to catch on.


2 posted on 11/23/2005 10:05:55 AM PST by dollar_dog
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To: dollar_dog

How about Chiracgate? Or The French Connection?


3 posted on 11/23/2005 10:11:27 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: parnasokan; All; doug from upland

As this post takes us closer to the French connections in Plamegate/Nigergate,

I have to say quite honestly and fervently:

(1)The CIA division that includes Valerie Plame,

(a)is tasked with tracking all such "uranium transactions" worldwide,
(b)has extensive contacts with current and former IAEA officials,
(c)has extensive contacts with similar divisions in all "foreign services" that have similar concerns about such transactions,
(d)would have known in no less than one week what names and dates on the Niger documents were in error.

(2)And yet, between the date those documents are received at the US embassy in Rome, October 9, 2002 until they are declared forgeries by the IAEA in 2003, no official word from Plame's CIA division goes forth to declare the documents as forgeries.

(3)This cannot be incompetance. Any reasonable investigator would have to accept two possibilities, not mutually exclusive: (a)Plame's division knew all along, with their French sources, that the documents were forgeries planted by the French and/or (b)Plame's division in the CIA was politically motivated to withold from the Whitehouse, for months, that they had already "determined" the forged status of the documents.

We can expect that at least the French wanted the forgeries inserted into the documents that the US would give to the UN, to intentionally embarass the US.

And I do not think we can escape the possibility that so did some person or persons at the CIA.

We need a new special prosecutor, and possible criminal charges that would deal with CIA employees who knowingly work with a foreign country, in that foreign country's attempt to derail, through false evidence, the operations of the US government.


4 posted on 11/23/2005 10:57:11 AM PST by Wuli
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To: parnasokan; Congressman Billybob; neverdem; Howlin
Informative: Difficult to read, but clear in its separation between "author's opinion" and "edited corrections" and "stated facts" from other sources.

Refreshing to read real analysis, not MSM blather.
5 posted on 11/23/2005 11:08:03 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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To: Wuli

If you read the SSCI, the explanation given is that the set of these documents given to Plame's division was locked in a safe and forgotten for 6 months because the person who was to receive tham had been absent on the date of their distribution.


6 posted on 11/23/2005 11:15:41 AM PST by the Real fifi
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To: the Real fifi

And if one is to believe that bureaucratic fiction then one would have to believe that the CIA had no urgent need for Wilson's trip to Niger because there was no urgent concern about "yellowcake pushcases in Niger". That same bureaucracy cannot substantiate that such documents, given their subject matter would not have been brought to the immediate attention of that individual immediately upon their return. I contend that the "oversight" was intentional.

We need people in front of grand juries under oath.


7 posted on 11/23/2005 11:38:19 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

The plot thickens!


8 posted on 11/23/2005 11:38:53 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: parnasokan

"The shadow of the French inspector"

Clouseau?


9 posted on 11/23/2005 11:45:25 AM PST by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: Wuli; parnasokan

The Niger Embassy would obviously know who was in office on what date, and so the fact that the wrong names and dates were used tells me that the documents were intended to be discovered as forgeries when they were created.

They were intended as a setup from the moment ink went on paper. I realize this is only obvious, but the article dances around this without saying so directly.


10 posted on 11/23/2005 11:51:38 AM PST by marron
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To: Wuli

I agree it is highly suspicious.


11 posted on 11/23/2005 12:00:05 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: Spok
I think by the time this is over, Joe AND VALERIE will be oui-ouing their pants and I hope it's on jail.

My thoughts now are that Valerie was passing "Classified Information" to Joe from the time Bush entered the Whitehouse and Joe was passing it to the Dem Camp.

Any LADY???? spy who outs herself on a third date to a married man does not qualify as a spy. Geez, even I'm better at keeping a secret than she is.

Where is good old Valerie?

12 posted on 11/23/2005 12:06:03 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: parnasokan
This article also appears as part 19 of the Niger-gate series at:
http://www.mariosechi.net/2005/11/23/niger-gate19-lombra-dellispettore-francese/
in Italian
13 posted on 11/23/2005 12:17:25 PM PST by MilleniumBug
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To: parnasokan; Fedora

Thanks! Ping to Fedora.


14 posted on 11/23/2005 12:23:06 PM PST by ravingnutter
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Thanks for the ping! Jafar isn't a reliable witness IMO, if you look at some of his other statements, so I put no great confidence in his story, but the discrepancy between his and Baute's stories has to be resolved one way or the other. My working theory is that Baute already knew about the forgeries from France before the US or UK or whoever (depending on which account you go by) reportedly told him in February. I don't claim to be able to prove that at this point, though.


15 posted on 11/23/2005 12:52:21 PM PST by Fedora
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To: parnasokan
The Bush administration was decieved by it’s presumed allies and the blame was placed on the Italians

Want a full investigation - this is much bigger than just Wilson/Wilson and a few cranks at CIA. This is a coup on the US President and his administration, orchestrated in my mind by the RATS.

16 posted on 11/23/2005 12:59:43 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: parnasokan

bttt


17 posted on 11/23/2005 2:21:23 PM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: parnasokan

Bump

I don't even pretend to be able to follow all of these twisted paths anymore. :-/

Pinz


18 posted on 11/23/2005 2:26:47 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Fedora; ravingnutter

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?id=1521846767-2241


19 posted on 11/23/2005 4:37:11 PM PST by BARLF
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To: the Real fifi

"If you read the SSCI, the explanation given is that the set of these documents given to Plame's division was locked in a safe and forgotten for 6 months because the person who was to receive tham had been absent on the date of their distribution."

I believe that. Not to change the subject, but do you know if these shares of the Brooklyn Bridge being offered for sale are valid?


20 posted on 11/23/2005 7:02:05 PM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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