For the rest of you, some of whom will face the same dilemna, I offer up the following retort for the most recent leftist thrust re the Iraq war.
It will be their contention no doubt, that we withdraw now. I plan to ask them why we should withdraw. It will be easy to guide them to the conclusion that we should withdraw....BECAUSE WE ARE LOSING. My question to them will then be:
Will you itemize for me please, which of the STRATEGIC GOALS of our ENEMY.....have been ACCOMPLISHED?
"Think now sis, think, brother of mine, before you speak......did the civil war break out between Sunnis and Shi'ites?....did the insurgency prevent the election of the interim government?...did the insurgency prevent the vote on the constitution?....have they succeeded in any way to sway public opinion against the American "occupation"?....which side has had to resort to sending in 10 year olds, the retarded, and important lieutenants to die for the cause?....which side's field commander got a written rebuke from his commander in chief?....
Am I loaded for bear, or what?
...have they succeeded in any way to sway public opinion against the American "occupation"?...
Well, if you include the Dems and the MSM as enemies of the President, and by extension, the U.S. (as I do, in my humble opinion), then you would have to say that this objective is being achieved by the enemy from within.
I share your pain by the way: I used to work at UMASS Amherst (Berkeley East). I found that one could make the rabid liberals slip on their own drool by playing devil's advocate and letting them figuratively cut their own throats, while I continued to appear to be above the fray.
A few "...but I read (insert truth they never saw or ignored here) in the paper (be vague about which one, but offer that you only read the Boston Globe or NYTimes, LOL)..." and force them to support their beliefs. Trust me, it ends quickly. You can tell they have run out of unfounded talking points when their heads cock to the side like a confused dog.
It is fun to watch! ;-)