Meanwhile, At The Real Quagmire ...

Captain's Quarters ^ | 11/22/05 | Captain Ed

[StatenIsland]

Indeed

[SE Mom]

Well. This piece is logical, reasoned and based on factual comparisons.

Who here believes the liberals will comprehend it?

[Paladin2]

Note that the US has been in Afghanistan for longer than Iraq, but we hear no MSM & 'Rat coordinated calls for retreat there.

The 'Rats and MSM are also not at all concerned that we fly Warthogs all over Islamic Airspace, even over mosques!

[johnny7]

“What's wrong with this picture?”

Two meaningless letters... UN.

[kittymyrib]

Yes, Clintoon, the military genius who got us into Bosnia, along with Maddie Halfbright, his chubby side-kick, promised our troops would be home by Christmas. That was ten Christmases ago. Why Republicans don't bring up this salient fact every time a Dem opens his/her complaining mouth about our troops being in Iraq 3 years after a real war, I'll never know.

[wolfpat]

You'd think that after winning a war we would have our troops home in a short amount of time. Instead it has become a quagmire, creating more animosity toward the US.

We need to immediately withdraw from Germany.

[LS]

That's all true, and I did not think our intervention in Bosnia was necessary: the Euros could have handled that all by themselves (although in retrospect, we may have kept the Russkies out).

But we need to be honest: there are not Bosnian suicide bombers blowing up marketplaces and assasinating mayors in Bosnia. There are not 2000 dead "peacekeepers" in Bosnia. If there were, the whole debate would be different, so while it's right to point out that this was a long-term affair from the beginning, it's nowhere near the same as Iraq.

[sgtbono2002]

This is all about to blow up in our faces as the Muslims there are getting ready for a Civil War.

[RGSpincich]

Mr. Clinton's war is still going on? Does he visit the troops over there?

[MarkL]

What's our exit strategy for Bosnia? What's the time table for us to get our troops out?

What's our exit strategy for Germany? The war's been over for 60 years now... What's the timetable for us to get our troops out?

Mark

[McGavin999]

Ah, but you see there was a difference. Bosnia was started under Clinton and Iraq was started under Bush. NOW do you see the difference? < /sarcasm >

[StatenIsland]

" There are not 2000 dead "peacekeepers" in Bosnia. "

Exactly so. VDH brought this up in a column a few weeks ago - for the Dems, it's ALL about the casualties. After all, what else is there to complain about? They've no stomach for them, as UBL correctly ascertained. What UBL didn't count on was George Bush and his base; he was only exposed to the MSM and the "intellectual elite" on the East and West coasts.

I guess we're not winning the war fast enough for them, though as Captain Ed's missive points out, their concern for time spent in-country only pops up when it suits them.

What we've accomplished in Afghanistan and Iraq at the cost of about 2500 American lives is amazing and stunning - to anyone who wants to examine it objectively. That, of course, lets the power-mad Dems out, since objectivity is not their bag. And we did it without targeting the general populace or the destruction of cities. Again, amazing.

Islamofacism is a cancer that will, if left unchecked, destroy the body of the world. Unlike Nazism, which was a concentrated malignancy that we could surgically remove, Islamofascists are systemic. The cure lies not in amputation - that would be easy - but rather in a cocktail of disease-killing drugs, the principal ones being democracy, freedom and pre-emption..

[Erik Latranyi]

Unlike Nazism, which was a concentrated malignancy that we could surgically remove, Islamofascists are systemic. The cure lies not in amputation - that would be easy - but rather in a cocktail of disease-killing drugs, the principal ones being democracy, freedom and pre-emption.

Well said.

[Misplaced Texan]

Clinton Will Keep Troops in Bosnia By John F. Harris Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, December 19, 1997; Page A01

With a blunt admission that he misjudged how long it would take to build lasting peace in Bosnia, President Clinton yesterday announced that he has decided in principle to keep U.S. military forces there past a June 1998 deadline and into the indefinite future.

While the administration remains in the midst of an internal debate over how many U.S. troops should stay in Bosnia and precisely what they should do, Clinton said pulling out the U.S. force now would invite a return to the ethnic violence that made one in 10 Bosnians a casualty of war before a U.S.-brokered peace settlement two years ago.

Rather than bringing the 8,000 U.S. troops home by June 30, administration officials say the options now receiving most serious consideration by Clinton would reduce this figure only modestly -- and conceivably not at all -- and that the essential mission of the troops would remain unchanged. Their withdrawal, Clinton said, would depend on the fulfillment of a series of "benchmarks" toward creation of a "self-sustaining, secure environment" in Bosnia.

Clinton declined to pledge that this goal would be reached by the time he leaves office in three years and said -- after twice setting target dates for bringing troops home and twice missing those targets -- that he would no longer define a military mission by dates on a calendar.

"I understand your job is try to get a deadline nailed down, but we tried it . . . and it turned out we were wrong," Clinton told reporters at the White House briefing room.

What a difference time makes!

[isrul]

You're absolutely right. Same thing goes for Kosovo. When the mahammedan vipers believe the time is right, they do what they do ... kill, kill, kill.

[LS]

I haven't yet posted my "heads-up" thread with the new book cover, but soon will: In May 2006 I have a new book, tentatively entitled, "America's Victories: the Superiority of the U.S. Military." (Sentinel)

In it I make the argument that perversely/ironically PEACE MOVEMENTS make our military BETTER because of this emphasis on OUR casualties (the only argument that works on the U.S. public), we have relentlessly made our soldiers, to be blunt, the most lethal killers in the world while at the same time elevating their own safety to levels no military in history has ever imagined.

Thus the title of my last chapter, "Protestors Make Soldiers Better"

[TC Rider]

This is a lie. Clinton told us during the election in '96 that our boys would be home by Christmas.

[McGavin999]

Yep, it sure doesn. Remember when he sent the troops in? He originally said they'd be home by Christmas. How many years ago was that?

[Kenny Bunk]

although in retrospect, we may have kept the Russkies out).

And this was a good thing? Perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea to let the Russkis sort out Muslims wherever we find them.

[Kenny Bunk]

although in retrospect, we may have kept the Russkies out).

And this was a good thing? Perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea to let the Russkis sort out Muslims wherever we find them.