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Look at the pro-life run polls on pro-life sites mostly frequented by pro-life conservatives. Consistently, Rice runs strongest. Consistently when Rice is out of the list, Rudy runs strongest. (When Rice is in the list, she takes most of Rudy's support plus significant support from every other candidate in the poll, including Brownback.)

If the GOP could dump the pro-lifers and win, we'd be dumped long ago. Certainly in '96 when Dole was openly expressing his disdain with us.

Your other points may have some validity but they're more anecdotal than comprehensive.

My central contention is remains that the GOP had better plan to win without the pro-lifers if they run a Guiliani or a Rice. If it's Guiliani, they can forget the pro-famiily (largely the same as pro-lifers) and the pro-gunners too.

Go ahead and dismiss the despised single-issue voters. But we ain't goin' nowhere. Just ask Justice Miers.

My point was that on the conservative web sites that attract social conservatives, Rudy is doing extremely well... much better than the social conservative candidates.

This shows that most pro-lifers (like me) are not single issue voters. Most voters, regardless of their personal ideology, end up voting for the candidate that they feel most comfortable voting for and voting against the candidate that makes them feel uncomfortable.

In the mid-Iraq and post-Katrin months, "leadership" makes people feel comfortable. Lack of leadership made them feel uncomfortable. Things may change by 2006, or 2008. Economic issues or who knows what may be the comfort zone of the moment.

Sometimes it is just a quirk of pop culture that reinforces and brings out one of our mixed feelings. In fall of '88 the song constantly playing the radio was "Don't worry. Be happy".