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Obama Calls on Bush To Admit Iraq Errors
WP ^ | Nov 23 2005 | Peter Slevin

Posted on 11/22/2005 10:30:56 PM PST by jmc1969

Sen. Barack Obama said President Bush should admit mistakes in waging the Iraq war and reduce the number of troops stationed there in the next year.

"Straight answers to critical questions. That's what we don't have right now," the high-profile freshman senator told the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations. "Members of both parties and the American people have now made clear that it is simply not enough for the president to simply say 'We know best' and 'Stay the course.' "

As other Democrats are finding their voice against Iraq policy, Obama took an approach closer to one taken by Senate Foreign Relations Committee colleague Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) than to that of Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.). Murtha, a former Marine, called last week for an immediate pullout of nearly 160,000 U.S. troops.

He maintained that Bush could take politics out of the Iraq discussion "once and for all if he would simply go on television and say to the American people: 'Yes, we made mistakes.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 109th; barackobama; barf; demrisingstar; freshman; illinois; iraq; obama; osamaobama; senator
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1 posted on 11/22/2005 10:30:57 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Hey, Obama, how about you admit Jim Cauley is a loser freak.


2 posted on 11/22/2005 10:32:00 PM PST by BlackjackPershing (Laissez les bon temps roulez)
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To: jmc1969
"Straight answers to critical questions. That's what we don't have right now," the high-profile freshman senator

Editorial content?

What editorial content?

The MSM is a joke to more and more people every day.

3 posted on 11/22/2005 10:37:05 PM PST by Carling (http://www.marriedadults.com/howarddeanscreamaudio141jq.mp3)
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To: jmc1969
LOL, A freshman Senator calls for the POTUS to take the politics out of the debate, when every senior member of his Party has been politicizing the war since the day Hillary waddled her fat ass out on the floor of the Senate waiving her (Most Likely Stolen) copy of the New York Post that had a headline that read "BUSH KNEW" as she screeched out her call for the POTUS to tell her "What did he know, and when did he know it"

The Democrats are digging a hole that is now reaching below rock bottom. Barak Obama is being used, he has a safe seat and the DEM leaders figure he can recover from this nonsense he is spewing

4 posted on 11/22/2005 10:38:06 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats have the wisdom of a new born and the vision of a still born)
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To: jmc1969

Obama should STFU until he is a little older and wiser.


5 posted on 11/22/2005 10:38:27 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Bush! Go Sharon!)
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To: jmc1969
ha ha, the MSM just love this Obama guy. They're probably wetting their pants thinking of a Hillary/Obama ticket in 08.
6 posted on 11/22/2005 10:43:45 PM PST by NewMediaFan (Fake but accurate)
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To: jmc1969

He should apply for a job as a journalist.


7 posted on 11/22/2005 10:44:25 PM PST by thoughtomator (What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
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To: claudiustg

Obama,

John F'ing Kerry already tried this tactic in the last election. It didn't work. He lost.


8 posted on 11/22/2005 10:47:08 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: jmc1969
As other Democrats are finding their voice against Iraq policy, Obama took an approach closer to one taken by...

Just now finding their voices ?
Give me a break, there's been an incessant anti Iraq policy pounding for months if not years.

9 posted on 11/22/2005 10:47:17 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: jmc1969

President Bush ought to smile, look into the TV cameras and say; "Well, Ok Obama, you want me to apologize for all the errors made on Iraq?" Broadening his smile he go on with; "I'll be big about it Obama." And finally facing the camera and looking very sorrowful he should finish with, "I'd like to offer the American people an apology and ask that they forgive Obama and the rest of the demoRatic party for all the errors they've made on Iraq." : )


11 posted on 11/22/2005 10:58:50 PM PST by GloriaJane (http://music.download.com/gloriajane "Seems Like Our Press Has Turned Against Our Country")
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To: jmc1969
Why? What good does it do to public "admit" whatever "errors" may have occured and will Obama be supplying his own list of "errors" or not?

Did Billy Clinton ever admit "errors" over Somalia, Hillarycare, Monica, Bosnia, Waco, Ruby Ridge, Elián, Osama, North Korea, Iraq, the Sudan...?

12 posted on 11/22/2005 10:58:53 PM PST by newzjunkey (CA: Signature deadline coming! HELP Enforce Our Border: http://www.CalBorderPolice.com/)
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To: jmc1969

Hey, Osama Bama Ubamma, Hillary plays the shrew far better than you, so give it up. Pu$$ie boy.


13 posted on 11/22/2005 11:00:15 PM PST by msf92497 (Uh Oh)
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To: jmc1969

Obama, Osama, Obama, Osama, Obama, Osama...


14 posted on 11/22/2005 11:00:48 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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Perhaps Obama should refresh his memory. Biden

I look forward to your analysis of the reports issued this week by the United Nations weapons inspectors. To me, they clearly show—they clearly show—that Saddam continues to thumb his nose at the world and is in material breach—and is in material breach—of the 1441, the most recent U.N. resolution. They bolster the case that the United States has made that Iraq is violating the terms of surrender. And I want to term it in terms of surrender. I am so frustrated by some other parts of this administration of injecting into this debate a notion relating to preemption that has not a damn thing to do with whether or not we move against Saddam Hussein. I would hope the president and everyone else would stop talking about a doctrine you can't even explain—you can't even explain—to the American public. You can't explain to us because it's confusing to the rest of the world. We are not acting as if we act preemptively. We are enforcing a surrender document. Saddam Hussein invaded another country. The world responded. If this were 1930 he would have signed a peace agreement. It's not. We have a United Nations. He signed onto in return for his ability to stay in power, he made a commitment to the world, several commitments. Enforcing that if necessary is not preemption—is not preemption—whatever the hell that doctrine is supposed to mean. And so, I would respectively suggest that when you talk about this, do not further confuse the devil out of the rest of the world and make us sound like a bunch of cowboys that we're going to be out there preemptively imposing our view. This is an enforcement of a binding international legal commitment that a man made to save his skin and stay in power. In the legal sense, it's clear that Iraq is in material breach. But the court of international opinion is not a court of law. You have to meet a higher standard of proof, not legally have to meet it, but practically to enhance our greater interest. We have to meet the highest standards of proof in order to convince the Security Council and the thousands and thousands of people out there, or millions, who do not understand and are not ready to believe. I'm going to say something that's mildly controversial, but since I said it in front of 500 world leaders the last three days in Davos, every world leader in Europe and the Middle East knows he's in material breach. They know it. Why aren't they responding? We have no, with the possible exception of England, significant, powerful leader in Europe today. That's not a criticism, that's an observation. And they are unwilling, in my view, to stand up the face of public opinion in their communities that run from 95 percent to 70 percent against this war based upon him being in material breach as defined.

Much more in Biden's own words here. Perhaps some FReepers will read more than I did, which was a bunch.

15 posted on 11/22/2005 11:01:29 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: jmc1969
Straight answers to critical questions. That's what we don't have right now,

You provide the "critical questions", we'll proved the "straight answers"!!

The Dem/MSM proganda campaign has become so transaparent, I think even the Sheeple can see through it - of course the Moonbats & DUmmies are still clueless . . .

16 posted on 11/22/2005 11:02:07 PM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Ted Kennedy got that one right, didn't he? "Senator Osama."


17 posted on 11/22/2005 11:02:57 PM PST by newzjunkey (CA: Signature deadline coming! HELP Enforce Our Border: http://www.CalBorderPolice.com/)
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To: jmc1969
Senator Empty Suit strikes again. I continue to frsutrate local liberals in Illinois by asking what the man has actually accomplished in life to warrant the worship he is accorded.

Nothing but empty smiles in response. He's a liberal - there is no need for actual accomplishment.

18 posted on 11/22/2005 11:03:15 PM PST by Bernard (You can either deal with your situation or be a liberal about it.)
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To: BigBobber

---John F'ing Kerry already tried this tactic in the last election. It didn't work. He lost.---

I wonder if it will work for Hillary and Obama, they won't have the swift vets firing torpedos at them. Seriously, when you consider how BAD Kerry was, I'm amazed at how close the election was.


19 posted on 11/22/2005 11:06:59 PM PST by Loud Mime (Bad Lawmakers = Bad Law = Infinite Lawyers)
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To: jmc1969
What is it with these scumbag Democrats and their obsession that people "admit errors" and "apologize", etc.? What purpose would it serve? Would it make them feel better somehow? Would it accomplish anything at all??

On the day that the scumbag Democrats admit that they wasted over six trillion taxpayer dollars on their welfare-state "war on poverty" and announce that they are "pulling out", that's the day Bush can consider "admitting errors" in the war on global terrorism.

Not one second sooner.
As Dan Rather would say, "FEA".

20 posted on 11/22/2005 11:10:50 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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