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Lust Youth Are Not Innocent Laddies (the not-so-innocent victims of the randy schoolteacher)
NY Post ^ | November 22, 2005 | Andrea Peyser

Posted on 11/22/2005 2:08:00 PM PST by dead

THE victims in the case of the randy Catholic schoolteacher were sexually active lads of 16 and 17. Not 12. They are old enough to shave and to drive, as well as to access pornography on the Internet. Old enough, that is, to say, "Yes," and know what it means.

In another time and place, we would have called these teens saddled with burgeoning hormones and overactive imaginations by quite another name: They'd be called Men.

But until an Albany judge yesterday summoned the temerity to utter the words, no one would dare say out loud what the majority was thinking…

There is no indication that teacher Beth Geisel, 42, manipulated her young charges to satisfy her urges. On the contrary.

"The 16-year-old badgered her to meet him. He broke through a skylight, piled chairs on the doors, and had the other two kids peeking through the window," Geisel's lawyer, Donald Kinsella, was telling me…

You might call Geisel desperate and needy, bordering on the pathological. But she is not a predator. The boys had their fun with her, then they laughed at her behind her back, while notching up their belts and boasting of their exploits.

People will howl that Geisel got treated leniently because she's a woman. But I believe Judge Herrick should be applauded…

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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Imagine the excitement that spreads through a school of 16 and 17 year old boys when the following phrase starts getting tossed around accurately:

"The hot crazy drunk teacher puts out!"

1 posted on 11/22/2005 2:08:01 PM PST by dead
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To: dead

Good gosh, dead.

Another thread like this one...here we go...where is that "eating popcorn" graphic when you need it!


2 posted on 11/22/2005 2:18:52 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: dead
Imagine the excitement that spreads through a school of 16 and 17 year old boys when the following phrase starts getting tossed around accurately:
"The hot crazy drunk teacher puts out!"

LOL. It would cause a stampede!!!

And now, a word to the author of the article:

The boys/men/horndogs are not the ones on trial. The randy teacher is the one who broke the law. If she's out looking for some young stud, let her find an 18-year-old who is not a student where she is employed.

Do teachers need to have it spelled out in their contracts that they are not to have sexual relations with their students, (even if the student is 18 and a legal adult)?

3 posted on 11/22/2005 2:21:56 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver

Do teachers need to have it spelled out in their contracts that they are not to have sexual relations with their students, (even if the student is 18 and a legal adult)?



Do Presidents need to have it spelled out in their contracts that they are not to have sexual relations with their interns, (even if the intern is 18 and a legal adult)?

Oops, I forgot, there was no intercourse with Billy MonMon.


4 posted on 11/22/2005 2:28:10 PM PST by LieFreeGov
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To: DumpsterDiver

You're absolutely right, she's responsible for her own actions, whether she was drunk at the time or not.


5 posted on 11/22/2005 2:28:45 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead
Mr. Ditter and I were discussing this this morning. According to him sex with a hot young school teacher is every high school boys dream.
6 posted on 11/22/2005 2:33:18 PM PST by Ditter
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To: dead

7 posted on 11/22/2005 2:39:38 PM PST by rawhide
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To: rlmorel
Peyser must have started the Holiday eggnog early. A 16 year of boy with magical powers over a defenseless 42 year old woman? She must of stayed up all night thinking up that scenario.
8 posted on 11/22/2005 2:48:22 PM PST by CaptainK
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To: dead

Of course, if they were trying to join the army, they would be little children.


9 posted on 11/22/2005 2:52:42 PM PST by Daralundy
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To: dead

I agree with her on a lot of it..but she is 42 and should know better..the kids are scum too and if it were a guy and girls Id say the same thing but of course the guy would be a perv in jail for life


10 posted on 11/22/2005 2:56:03 PM PST by skaterboy (Miss my kitty)
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To: Ditter

Yea it is but the teachers used to know better


11 posted on 11/22/2005 2:57:17 PM PST by skaterboy (Miss my kitty)
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To: Ditter
According to him sex with a hot young school teacher is every high school boys dream.

Just a wild guess on my part, but I’d say Mr. Ditter’s dream didn’t come true.

I say that because everybody I’ve ever known that was sexually active with an older female while in their early teens have mental issues, IMO.

They usually view sex as recreational and casual and as something not much more meaningful than watching a TV show or playing a hand of cards.

I’m sure that’s the type of kid you want your daughter to date.

Also, I’ve noticed that they tend to be on the violent side – more so than their peers, IMO.

I had a cousin that was Mr. Big Shot because he was banging some housewife that lived around the corner from his family when he was 13/14/15 years old. He’d be in his early 60’s now but I know over the years he was accused (though never charged or prosecuted) of at least four rapes. One was a ~16 year old girl when he was in his mid 20’s.

He was married twice and has some broad he lives with (still) and every one of them have had him racked up for beating them at one time or other.

It’s funny because I remember him being somewhat normal as a kid. Something happened to cause him to be stupid.

Also funny because the last time I saw him we were in a cafeteria and there was a waitress that was a little cutie. His remark to me was, “I ought to bend her over that table and –.” I’ll let you fill in the rest.

I thought it was odd because I might see a little wiggly, jiggly honey-bunny and think she’s sexually attractive. But for sure I’m NOT going to be telling someone I’ve only seen 50 times in my life that I “ought to” sexually assault her. In fact, I’m not going to even *think* it – which may very well be the result of his taking a path that I never did.

End result for me is that I don’t really think I missed out on anything meaningful.

Lots of people think it’s really “cool” or something. Let’s see how cool they think it is when their daughter/niece/granddaughter starts rubbing elbows with them. (Of course that’ll be “different” somehow.)

12 posted on 11/22/2005 3:14:08 PM PST by Who dat?
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To: dead

Have girls ever done this to a male teacher? I think so. The guy will get out of prison in 2018.


13 posted on 11/22/2005 3:16:46 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Who dat?
No his dream didn't come true and he does not fit the profile of the boor you describe. Next month we will celebrate our 48th wedding anniversary. He has been a very good husband.
14 posted on 11/22/2005 3:23:05 PM PST by Ditter
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No his dream didn't come true and he does not fit the profile of the boor you describe.

That’s good. Just pointing out that there have been people that lived the Big Dream and it wasn’t all it was cracked up to be. In fact, it messed them up in the head, IMO.

Next month we will celebrate our 48th wedding anniversary.

Now that’s an accomplishment just about anywhere. (Today because they usually don't last that long, and in years past because they didn't live that long. Ha!) Congrats.

15 posted on 11/22/2005 4:15:36 PM PST by Who dat?
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To: DumpsterDiver
The randy teacher is the one who broke the law. If she's out looking for some young stud, let her find an 18-year-old who is not a student where she is employed.

I don't think you read the article. The teacher is an alcoholic, and the young men broke into her home. They were the aggressors.
Being too drunk to know what you're doing is no excuse, but I also think the young men are hoodlums and are going to wind up in jail before too long.

16 posted on 11/22/2005 4:18:55 PM PST by speekinout
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The teacher is an alcoholic, and the young men broke into her home.

I agree with you. Young men broke into her home, outnumbered her, and took advantage of her in her drunken state? Yikes. They're just a little ahead of their time. Should we feel less care for or more outrage against the teacher merely because she was much older? In a few years in college, if they get off, no pun intended, they'll be the kind of guys who gang up on girls drinking at parties and single one out to get her drunk and take back to their room... This is just as heinous.

17 posted on 11/22/2005 4:27:38 PM PST by fortunecookie
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To: speekinout
I don't think you read the article.

Mea culpa and guilty as charged.

Man, nothing like running off at the mouth when you don't know what you're talking about! (I am embarrassed!)

18 posted on 11/22/2005 4:32:09 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: fortunecookie

There is something about this that reminds me of the story of the man who went to jail for consensual sex with a 15 year old girl he met in a bar and who claimed to be 18.

It irritated the heck out of me that she could go hunting for him, in a place he had every right to believe that she was of age, was lied to and still got punished.

It's the law, it has to be followed, but sometimes it really is blind.


19 posted on 11/22/2005 4:36:39 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Who dat?

Insightful post. Thanks.


20 posted on 11/22/2005 4:37:06 PM PST by pollyannaish
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