Iraq Bomber Kills 17; U.S. Toll at 2,100 (AP Celebrates)

The AP ( Anti American Propaganda)/Yahoo ^ | 11/22/05 | BASSEM MROUE

[Dont_Tread_On_Me_888]

I believe you are not looking at a broad picture of US national security, and this statement that the "AP Celebrates" points to a defensive attitude on your part toward Bush's harmful tactics.

I am as hard core conservative as they come. I have never voted for a RAT; I was ahead of my time in coming to the conclusion in the 1968 Presidential election (my first vote) that all RATs are radical leftists. They were wacko extremists in 1968 and have never changed--this is no recent development.

That said, 2100 dead American soldiers does not sit well with me. I see very little change int he last two years. If I saw film footage of the Iraqi Army in action taking on the thugs, I would feel different, but I know that the Iraqis should have put together an army quicker than what they are doing.

If I saw Bush keep his promise by eliminating Iran as a threat and stopping the IED production in Iran that kills our troops, I would feel different.

If I saw Bush keep his promise and eliminate Syria's ability to funnel thugs into Iraq, I would feel different.

If I saw Bush reclaim any of the $15 billion in "aid" to Africa and use that money to help keep the DD(X) program going or help with the Joint Strike Fighter, I would feel different. Instead, I see Bush's global welfare and a declining military capability. Bush has been the biggest welfare spender in the history of the world for global giveaways and domestic giveaways, while military hardware production is scaled back or canceled outright.

Iran and North Korea are building nukes while we spend $300 billion in Iraq instead of $300 billion toward a REAL ABM system and other counter measures. And of course, we have a red carpet open border linking Mexmerica to Amerxico. It is not just the AP that should question our tactics, but every hard core conservative should question our tactics.

I happen to be of Lebanese descent and know that region well and I can tell you that the thugs in Iraq, Iran and in that general region will always take the upper hand --there will never be "democracy" in that region. Oh,it is possible, but the USA never fights wars to win. Their political correct way of fighting will insure that the thugs will rule tomorrow and beyond. The USA could (COULD) have strategies to fix the Middle East mess, but the balls are not there to do what is needed. The USA continues to send $ BILLIONS of dollars to these terrorist nations through direct aid, the IMF and the World Bank, plus other charities. This is not how you win wars--transferring your national treasury to your enemies.

There are legitimate questions that we should be asking. For example, take my nephew. He is a proud United States Marine, trained in artillery. What is he doing? Carrying a rifle and doing house-to-house police action in Iraq instead of doing what he was trained to do. This is nuts, and there are legitimate questions and criticisms that should be done.

We know Kerry would have been worse--fine. We know the RATs are ALL anti-American opportunists. That's a lock. But that should not stop true conservatives from demanding that we either fight this war like a war, or get out. As long as Bush fails to go after Iran and Syria who are killing our troops, and thus breaking his promise to go after nations that harbor terrorists, then we should be outraged and demand change.

If a war is fought in a politically correct police action fashion, then the USA should get out of the war business.

[The South Texan]

I agree with much of what you said. I think we have been to P.C. in alot of things we have done in Iraq.

My point is with the "AP celebrates" is they use the body count as a way to drive down support for our troops and their mission in Iraq. The Liberals in the world, DC and the US MSM would love nothing more than a hollow military that we were left with in the mid to late 70's after they destroyed our efforts in Vietnam. This is exactly what they are trying to accomplish here and God help us if we get a Rat in the White House in 2009 because we will have that hollow miltary from the 1970's once again.

And then we will be open for all sorts of attacks against Americans here and overseas.

[The South Texan]

And if Hitlerly or Bill Clinton were president, I can guarantee you the tone and the coverage of this war would be a alot different. The body count would hardly be mentioned.

[Dane]

We know Kerry would have been worse--fine. We know the RATs are ALL anti-American opportunists. That's a lock. But that should not stop true conservatives from demanding that we either fight this war like a war, or get out. As long as Bush fails to go after Iran and Syria who are killing our troops, and thus breaking his promise to go after nations that harbor terrorists, then we should be outraged and demand change

Yawn, mirror image of cindy sheehan type of rhetoric, doom and gloom from a person writing from behind a keyboard 8,000 miles away, giving a morale boost to the enemy, nonetheless.

[Dont_Tread_On_Me_888]

We know the MSM. We know only wackos or morons follow the MSM.

What we conservatives should be focusing on is not what the MSM does, but how we as conservatives should direct our efforts to cause change for the better.

With Bush's Miers pick, we did exaclty that. Our outrage caused Bush to trash his Miers pick and we forced his hand to name a great nominee in Sam Alito. With this politically correct "police action" in Iraq, we need to do the same. We need to voice outrage at Bush for failing to carry through with his promise to go after nations that aid and abet terrorists. Bush is standing by while our troops are killed daily from IEDs made in Iran and from thugs who entered Iraq form the Syrian border. Bush promised us in his 911 speech that "you are with us or with the terrorists" and that he would "go after nations that harbor and aid terrorists". Everybody knows that Iran and Syria are at war with the USA. It is the Iranian IEDs that are killing our boys. It is the Syrian border that allows these thugs to kill our boys. Why has Bush reneged on his promise?

We held Bush accoutnable for the ludicrous pick of Harriet Miers. Our reaction changed the course of American history by forcing Bush to name Sam Alito. We can do the same here withthe Iraq war. We need to do the same here with Bush's Iraq tactics. We need to demand that this war be fought as a war against terror with a goal of winning and a goal of forcing nations that harbor terrorists to end their war against the USA and its troops.

Should Bush continue with his go nowhere war, then we should demand that we get out of the war business. Either fight a war like a war, or do not "fight" at all.

[SeaBiscuit]

Prayers up for the 3 soldiers, may they rest in peace. F the media.

[Dane]

Should Bush continue with his go nowhere war, then we should demand that we get out of the war business. Either fight a war like a war, or do not "fight" at all.

And you are posting from downtown Baghdad. Look we all are getting the same media coverage(bad, quagmire, etc.etc.) while reports from 95% of the soldiers returning are saying that everything is actually going pretty good and the media is distorting the true story. Seems you are also trying to distort with your cynical posts.

I'll just say I'll trust Rummy over you anyday, Mr. keyboard general.