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Those Defensive Darwinists
The Seattle Times ^ | 11/21/05 | Jonathon Witt

Posted on 11/22/2005 12:44:07 PM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo

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To: Cicero

Quoting: "I'm perfectly happy to read Darwin and to let the theory be taught in schools, as long as it doesn't pretend to have a total monopoly on the truth."

"Why aren't Darwinists willing to entertain other possibilities in a similar way? Why do they refuse to let anyone even open their mouths about them? Why do they fire professors who dare to question Darwin? Why do they take school districts to court if they dare to question Darwin or even order an ID book for the school library? Is Darwin so delicate he can't stand up to questioning?"
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Reply: Where are you going to go with this argument? I think faeries are responsible for making airplanes fly. Teach the controversy. Let's not let the elites of Lockheed and Boeing get away unquestioned. Do you have any single counter-example or PROOF that faeries do not keep airplanes aloft?

Do aeronautic engineers have a "monoply on the truth", as you say, in their sphere? I trust them more than 2000-year old texts on this. When do you want the 'faerie theory' of airplanes taught in engineering schools on an equal basis?


221 posted on 11/22/2005 7:06:24 PM PST by thomaswest (Just Curious)
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To: editor-surveyor
Your "10,000 chrisian clergy" are unbelievers.

Ah, look, yet another AECreationist posting his MERE PRESUMPTION about the signers of the letter as if it was some sort of fact.

Do you guys get paid by the lie or something?

223 posted on 11/22/2005 7:11:44 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Stingy Dog
biologists have not been able to discover the factors that initiate the process.

Wrong. For starters:

Time. Rivers. Mountains. Continental drift. Genetic drift. Founders effect...

224 posted on 11/22/2005 7:13:14 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Stingy Dog
Does one squirrel change into a different species, or does it continue to be a squirrel?

All squirrels are the same species? You're really a piece of work, aren't you?

225 posted on 11/22/2005 7:13:22 PM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: longshadow
But in as much as the anti-Evos were caught lying through their teeth under oath in the Dover Trial, it would be of little surprise that their apologists here on FR would resort to milder forms of deception, such as camouflaging the TRUE source of the posted article, by way of omission.

You find it difficult to click on the link provided at the top of the posting? Oh yeah, it's easier for you to use Ad Hominem.

Re: OSC File No. MA-05-0371 and MA-05-0015

First Amendment Violations, Religious and Political Affiliation Discrimination

Our investigation also shows that there is a strong religious and political component to the actions taken after the publication of the Meyer article. Much of the e-mail traffic after the publication of the Meyer article documented a personal investigation of you and tabbed you as a "creationist." One senior SI employee, when discussing the Meyer article stated, "the paper is a sheer disaster… We are evolutionary biologist, and I am sorry to see us made into the laughing stock of the world, even if this kind of rubbish sells well in backwoods, USA… under no circumstances should the Institution support the journal with page-charges, which up to this point has been a mainstay of the Society." After the publication when many in the SI were investigating your background one of the e-mails raised concerns that you had "extensive training as an orthodox priest." Another e-mail stated, "Scientists have been perfectly willing to let these people alone in their churches, but now it looks like these people are coming out and invading our schools, biology classes, museums and now our professional journals. These people to my mind are only a scale up on the fundies of a more destructive kind in other parts of the world. Depressing. Oh, if we only still had Steve Gould to lead the counter-attack."

227 posted on 11/22/2005 7:17:34 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: editor-surveyor; LiteKeeper; Ichneumon
On that list of pro-evolution clergy, I see ELCA and other Lutherans, United Methodists, Presbyterians, Catholics, Episcopal, Congregationalists, UCC, and even a Baptist. Oddly enough, only a few Unitarians. So which of these denominations is pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, or otherwise anathema? I'm curious what tiny percentage of Christians actually measure up to you gentlemen's exacting tests of orthodoxy.
228 posted on 11/22/2005 7:17:55 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Stingy Dog

"Why do they have this desire to improve us?"

We have no concern about improving you; you are hopeless. We are concerned about making sure that your ignorance doesn't spread.


229 posted on 11/22/2005 7:19:05 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Liberal Classic

quoting: "Do you believe in UFOs, astral projections, mental telepathy, ESP, clairvoyance, spirit photography, telekinetic movement, full trance mediums, the Loch Ness monster and the theory of Atlantis?

"Winston Zeddmore:
Ah, if there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say."

Thank you for adding to my list of silly, non-Christian things people believe in. Getting a buck from it is only to show that some practicioners know how to milk to ready-to-believe. Religious cults are the same.




230 posted on 11/22/2005 7:19:37 PM PST by thomaswest (Just Curious)
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To: Stingy Dog
You still have not acknowledged your gross error, which I pointed out in post #198.

Do you not acknowledge when you make a mistake, but just blithely keep posting along hoping nobody will notice?

231 posted on 11/22/2005 7:23:03 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Stingy Dog
Like a squirrel on one side becomes an hyppopotamus?

Yes that's exactly what happened. It was observed too. Some scientists sat up all night watching squirrels and, would you believe it, one of them gave birth to a hyppopotamus. This is documented and proven, so evolution is now considered a law.

232 posted on 11/22/2005 7:23:08 PM PST by bobdsmith
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To: AndrewC

Problem is, none of this had in the least relevance, since the OSC admitted it had no jurisdiction. It appears to have been a personal jihad conducted by McVay on the government tab. Possibly if he were not an insurance attorney hired as a political appointee into a position for which he is manifestly unqualified (ring any bells, anyone?), he might have acted a little more professionally.


233 posted on 11/22/2005 7:24:40 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Ichneumon
Do you guys get paid by the lie or something?

So that's where Soros' money goes!

234 posted on 11/22/2005 7:24:49 PM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: Stingy Dog
Why is it that evolutionists are obsessed with creationists/IDers?

We wouldn't care one iota if it wasn't for y'all trying to force your views into high school science classes. You could be stark raving loonies channeling 15,000 years-dead Atlanteans, and it wouldn't matter to us. When you try to transport that lunacy into the academic realm, we draw the line.

235 posted on 11/22/2005 7:25:04 PM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Ichneumon
David Gates, is that you?

I'm channeling him.

237 posted on 11/22/2005 7:27:43 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Stingy Dog

Why is it that evolutionists are obsessed with creationists/IDers? That is one question I've been asking of evolutionists, but in vain. They invariably skirt the question. Why do they have this desire to improve us? Do they think, perhaps, of themselves as God, or do they have an ulterior, hidden nefarious agenda? Like, the destruction of Christianity, its culture and the enslaving of its people?

Beware the anti-Christians!

This is tortured, twisted, childish, irrational paranoid logic. Are you a child or an adult?

238 posted on 11/22/2005 7:27:51 PM PST by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
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To: Stingy Dog
"We are the foe and that audience. And, w/o an audience you ain't convincing and attracting new members to your pseudo, fake and phony religion.

~~My granddaddy was no ape~~"

Not only was your granddaddy an ape, YOU are an ape. Humans are apes. Deal with it.

BTW, what is your position on race-mixing? Why did you post that disgusting quote on your homepage? This question will not go away, and will be there every time you post on these threads. You can either answer it now, or let your silence answer for you.
239 posted on 11/22/2005 7:30:20 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Junior
We wouldn't care one iota if it wasn't for y'all trying to force your views into high school science classes.

Judging by his grammar, spelling and general total ignorance, it's probably the first encounter of any kind he's had with high school classes.

240 posted on 11/22/2005 7:30:58 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (Hyppopotamuses? BWAHAHAHAHA!)
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