Tancredo Plots Anti-Immigration 2008 Campaign

New York Sun ^ | November 22, 2005 | MEGHAN CLYNE

[Arizona Carolyn]

Except Hispanics who can vote and are American Citizens are not happy with illegal immigration... so IMHO would increase the Republican Hispanic Vote.

[inquest]

So how do those specific Republicans do among Hispanic voters? Better or worse than Republicans who don't support secure borders?

[Rodney King]

I want the border shut down now and all illegals deported

Yet will vote for someone who will not do that. Presumeably you also want less federal spending, but will vote for someone who will not do that as well.

Why bother voting at all?

[Rodney King]

Is Mike Palooka running again?

[MikefromOhio]

Yeah but think of all the money his PAC will pull in....

Or any books that he or Buchanan will write....

Don Quixote is alive and well....

[Arizona Carolyn]

I'm not so sure it would siphon votes off for McCain... remember last November McCain went around the state pushing for everyone to vote no on prop 200... it not only passed, but passed with a good margin and drew a lot of hispanic votes.

[dagnabbit]

Is there a reduction in legal immigration or any significant enforcement against illegal immigration on the horizon?

To the contrary, massive amnesties and increased influxes via a "temporary worker" open labor market are what the Kennedy-Bush crowd are promising us.

[wolfcreek]

I'm thinking Mr. Tancredo knows this issue is important to many Americans on both side of the asile but, I'm not sure it would get him elected.

[inquest]

So then what do you recommend with regard to the '08 election?

[Rodney King]

And so now it all comes full circle. We get told we're not supposed to vote third-party, because the Democrats will win; that if you want to move things further to the right, do it in the GOP primaries. Now we're not supposed to vote "too conservative" in the GOP primaries, because otherwise McCain will be the nominee. So the upshot is, unless we're willing to color outside the lines that have been presented to us by the party hacks, we'll still have to dance to their tune. Sorry, but this cycle needs to be broken somewhere.

The circle is not broken. The circle has always been one big con job to convince people who beleive in things not to vote for candidates who believe in things.

[af_vet_rr]

I can't cancel out his money, but I cancel out his vote. When it comes to choice between getting more money or more votes, I'd choose the votes.

You're absolutely right - you can cancel out Bill Gates' vote.

However, a photo of a candidate at a dinner with Bill Gates, or a small article in a newspaper or on the evening news about Bill Gates contributing to a candiate, will cancel out your vote and money 100s and 1000s of times over.

Nobody is going to put a picture in the paper of you shaking a candidates' hand or having dinner with them, or at a rally, unless it's your neighborhood newsletter and you happen to be editor-in-chief.

It's sad, but true, that in this country money does matter more.

[MikefromOhio]

Perouted?

probably. Unless they find someone else to take the fall....

[Constantine XIII]

Oh, come on, THAT's going to help you win friends.

"Vote for us or we'll shoot this dog!"

[Rodney King]

By the 2008 election, the immigration problem will be on its way to being solved.

If by solved you mean "no longer an issue since we have legalized the formerly illegal behavior" then I agree with you.

[peyton randolph]

Why bother voting at all?

I vote for the candidate in the primary who closest matches my beliefs on all issues. If that candidate doesn't win, I vote for the GOP candidate in the general election. Unlike the Brigadiers and 100% purists, I believe that half a loaf is better than none.

[inquest]

The circle is not broken. The circle has always been one big con job to convince people who beleive in things not to vote for candidates who believe in things.

The way to break it is to make more people aware of that fact. The more people simply up and decide they're not going to play the game anymore, the more the hacks will have to bring themselves to heel. It's so simple, but apparently too complicated for so many people around here.

[Feiny]

The Republicans have proven themselves to be bigger spenders than Democrats. I will be voting 3rd party in 2006 & 2008....unless something really wild happens & the R's decide to actually fulfill the party platform.

[calrighty]

"While the Colorado congressman's message might win votes as a hot-button issue in 2008 and 2012, Mr. McIntyre said, demographic trends suggested the position might prove electoral poison in 2016 and beyond as the American electorate becomes increasingly Hispanic"

The country will be totally polarized by then so there will be nothing worth saving anyway...who cares?

[calrighty]

BUMP

[inquest]

"Vote for us or we'll shoot this dog!"

If you want to imagine that you've just made some sort of point, feel free to do so. In the meantime, if the GOP wants to win friends, it'll have to do a lot better than it's currently doing.