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Tancredo Plots Anti-Immigration 2008 Campaign
New York Sun ^ | November 22, 2005 | MEGHAN CLYNE

Posted on 11/22/2005 12:28:26 PM PST by Icelander

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To: PRND21
Can you guess who the third partner is?

According to their About Us page, Tancredo and Bay Buchannan are the only chairpersons of that PAC.

301 posted on 11/23/2005 11:57:57 AM PST by jmc813 (Compassionate Conservatism is Gay)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

It did go through, and thank you.


302 posted on 11/23/2005 12:32:18 PM PST by calrighty (. Troops BTTT)
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To: mbraynard

LOL!


303 posted on 11/23/2005 1:06:11 PM PST by jwh_Denver ( Conservative War Plan: Shoot when you see the yellow's of their eyes.)
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To: nicmarlo
Correction: Bush has been, for all intents and purposes, dead on the border issue, not slow.

Even that doesn't describe it. He's been actively hostile to border security. Any President who, among other things, submits a budget to Congress that leaves out funding for Border Patrol agents that Congress had just authorized, and smears the Minutemen as "vigilantes" when he knows for a fact that they're anything but, can only be described as having the same views as the people who wrote that CFR recommendation. Anyone who puts this in the same category as Black Helicopters or similar such nonsense is a moron, plain and simple.

304 posted on 11/23/2005 1:21:05 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: inquest

You're right...I don't know what I was thinking.

I'm so mad about this, I could spit.


305 posted on 11/23/2005 1:22:18 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Constantine XIII
It does, but we need to work smarter, not harder. :)

Well, if that means coming up with a good candidate for '08, I'm all up for that. But if despite our efforts we don't get one, I wouldn't consider it smart to just vote for him. When the difference between the two major candidates gets below a certain threshold, then it becomes advantageous in the long term to vote for a third candidate who'll signal to the major parties what it is they lack.

I would especially advocate this for people who don't live in battleground states.

306 posted on 11/23/2005 1:25:10 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
There - see - you get it. If I had to vote today (and more imporantly work for someone) it would be Tom T.

Unfortunatly, many others don't get it.

307 posted on 11/23/2005 2:39:58 PM PST by mbraynard (I don't even HAVE a mustache!)
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To: antisocial
two things:

I don't care to bring 'conservatives' over to my side because they already are. I'm at least as conservative as you. You're just mentally deficient - that's the difference.

Second, I don't need to appeal to someone to try to save their own country.

308 posted on 11/23/2005 2:41:29 PM PST by mbraynard (I don't even HAVE a mustache!)
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To: Columbine
It takes a lot of work to build a new party. A lot more work than it would to change one with the machine already in place.

How is that working for you?</sarcasm>

309 posted on 11/23/2005 3:15:09 PM PST by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: mbraynard
Actually the deficiency is on you if you think anyone seriously believes that they're voting for third parties in order to get them into power in a single election. You're showing that you're just stumbling around without even the foggiest idea of what the debate's about, even though it's been explained plenty of times.

It's kinda comical, but typical.

310 posted on 11/23/2005 3:16:22 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: bybybill
(GOD help us if the Rats win)

They have won, you just haven't noticed.

There was a joke bacl when Goldwater was dirty tricked with the A-Bomb add, that went something like this.

They told me if I voted for Goldwater Taxes would go up and the Vietnam war would expand. Well I voted for him and sure enough they were right.

311 posted on 11/23/2005 4:08:58 PM PST by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Icelander
While the Colorado congressman's message might win votes as a hot-button issue in 2008 and 2012, Mr. McIntyre said, demographic trends suggested the position might prove electoral poison in 2016 and beyond as the American electorate becomes increasingly Hispanic, and if the Tancredo platform paints national Republicans as "anti-immigrant."

How illogical. This seems to say that successfully reducing Hispanic immigration now might be a political winner in 08 and 12 but you'd pay for in 16 as the electorate becomes increasingly Hispanic but you actually made the electorate less Hispanic if you succeeded in 2008 and 2012.

312 posted on 11/23/2005 6:30:05 PM PST by Jim_Curtis (Torture works)
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To: itsahoot

A whole lot better than it is for your candidates. No sarcasm needed.


313 posted on 11/23/2005 8:50:44 PM PST by Columbine
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To: mbraynard

"I don't care to bring 'conservatives' over to my side because they already are. I'm at least as conservative as you. You're just mentally deficient - that's the difference.

Second, I don't need to appeal to someone to try to save their own country."

Oh, I see now, if I don't want to vote for a RINO to prevent a real conservative from winning a primary, that makes me "mentally deficient". Good luck with that!


314 posted on 11/24/2005 5:44:20 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: jmc813

yeah....

I would rather have Sanford as he is already a Governor....

we will see...it's going to be interesting....


315 posted on 11/24/2005 2:10:22 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: mbraynard

I think legal immigrants who THINK, are against illegal immigration. They should, at least, because they are the most affected by illegals. I have not seen statistics on this assumption of mine, but I have the gut-feeling legal immigrants get for the most part low-skilled, low-paying jobs... which the illegals take away from them when they come along and accept lower working conditions. Please correct me if I am wrong on this one.


316 posted on 11/24/2005 2:36:37 PM PST by republican4ever
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To: Columbine
No sarcasm needed.

Sorry but you do need it. Here have a smily face maybe that will make you feel all better<(•¿•)>

Don't change the truth one bit, you still have an open borders president, who has spent more money that any president in history. And probably the only one who never vetoed a single piece of legislation in two terms.

317 posted on 11/24/2005 5:17:40 PM PST by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: itsahoot
Don't change the truth one bit, you still have an open borders president, who has spent more money that any president in history. And probably the only one who never vetoed a single piece of legislation in two terms.

But the libs hate him, so therefore he must be on our side.

(was somebody mentioning something about sarcasm, by the way? ;-)

318 posted on 11/24/2005 9:20:05 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: MikeinIraq
You are friggin blind and a LIAR. PROVE IT. You can't.

I can't because FR now saves resources by cutting post histories short (I checked)...but you've defended NoPardon's positions as well as other dubious characters in the past.

Let's see: You brashly post opinions as if they should be regarded as facts, you insulted Extremely Extreme Extremist (who I think is a stand up-guy despite having moderating duties), you're a jockhead and work on a lot of presumption while playing an excellent dupe for political correctness. On top of that you trash the only Rep out there consistantly standing up for your culture's continuence while presuming it's beyond threatening. I wrote a lot more but thought it was beyond cruel. I acknowledge that I don't know squat about sports, any real sense in Free Trade policy, how an amnesty is good for our country, why preserving what's left of our culture is a bad thing or why blindly following a cult of peronality is good just because that personality is a Republican. I'm going to keep my weapons regardless.

I'm not fond of wasting time and effort so I call myself off. Write me off the Christmas card list (especially if they all wish people "Happy Holidays") and know that I do wish you the best.

319 posted on 11/25/2005 3:33:46 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Oh say won't you be my neighbor? - Fred Rogers RIP)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
I can't because FR now saves resources by cutting post histories short (I checked)...but you've defended NoPardon's positions as well as other dubious characters in the past.

Why do I hear violin music all of a sudden? Either PROVE IT, or shut the hell up. You make the call. you won't because you are a chicken$h!t and only make claims that you can't back up.

you're a jockhead

Ohh I'm a "jockhead"? LOL that's hilarious. What are you, 5? Man I wish I was as cool as you are so I could call people "jockheads" too. Wow. Get your head out of your arse and NOTICE that sports is a rather big segment of society. But go ahead, insult us "jockheads". That makes perfect sense. Might as well alienate MILLIONS.

As for "my culture", you have no earthly IDEA what "my culture" is and I kinda doubt Tancredo represents half of it. You are so FULL of it I would be willing to bet that your eyes are brown.
320 posted on 11/25/2005 9:29:15 AM PST by MikefromOhio
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