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Tancredo Plots Anti-Immigration 2008 Campaign
New York Sun ^ | November 22, 2005 | MEGHAN CLYNE

Posted on 11/22/2005 12:28:26 PM PST by Icelander

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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Willy was a pussycat compared to the Hildebeast and if you want to pi$$ away your vote because it makes you feel ideologically all warm and fuzzy go ahead. Personally I'll take the l4esser of two evils all day long.


201 posted on 11/22/2005 5:11:23 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: MikeinIraq
I don't think you're getting Schlafly's point. However asinine the reasoning is, she accurately predicted that it would be the reasoning used by the courts.
202 posted on 11/22/2005 5:11:56 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: traderrob6
Willy was a pussycat compared to the Hildebeast

Actually you have it backwards. She has none of his charisma. The Republicans would feel much more confident standing up to her than they did standing up to Bill, especially if a majority of the vote goes to conservative candidates.

203 posted on 11/22/2005 5:14:31 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: traderrob6
"because it makes you feel ideologically all warm and fuzzy"

None of us that has or will vote CP do it for a warm and fuzzy feeling.

The warm and fuzzy feeling we have to worry about is the slowly rising temperature of the jacuzzi that the USA is now simmering in ... and will soon be boiling in ... thanks to the combined effort of the Demos and the Rinos.

204 posted on 11/22/2005 5:15:37 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: The Old Hoosier

Or Hillary - it would only take 34% of the vote in a three-way race.


205 posted on 11/22/2005 5:15:51 PM PST by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Thus gay marriage is AOK in the USA

FUNNY considering how a majority of the states have PASSED a constitutional ban on gay marriage, and virtually EVERY challenge of those laws are losing.

You want to re-examine your arguments again?
206 posted on 11/22/2005 5:16:02 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: Icelander
American Conservative Union's rating for Tom Tancredo = 100

American Conservative Union's rating for John McCain = 72

Tancredo in '08!

207 posted on 11/22/2005 5:17:14 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: MikeinIraq
Full faith and credit.

If not now, then soon.

208 posted on 11/22/2005 5:17:35 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: taxed2death

In the last election, the League of Women Voters, who sponsored the National Presidential debates, would not allow any third party candidates in the debates. They thought it would hurt Kerry. Now watch them allow the third party folks because they know that the vote needs to be split up -- only way the Dems can ever win again -- mark my word -- 34% of popular vote needed in a strong three way race.


209 posted on 11/22/2005 5:18:46 PM PST by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: MikeinIraq
FUNNY considering how a majority of the states have PASSED a constitutional ban on gay marriage, and virtually EVERY challenge of those laws are losing.

And funny how the ERA HASN'T passed, which was the whole premise of the discussion, if you remember.

210 posted on 11/22/2005 5:19:42 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: MikeinIraq
"FUNNY considering how a majority of the states have PASSED a constitutional ban on gay marriage, and virtually EVERY challenge of those laws are losing."

Whoopee! Gay men and women can't put on suits and say words in front of a preacher in a church.

But they can share medical benefits and lots of other bennies formerly limited to married couples.

Oh, and they can adopt kids.

This is truly a pyrrhic victory for conservatives.

211 posted on 11/22/2005 5:22:29 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Sioux-san
"Now watch them allow the third party folks"

The rationale was and will be that if three or more candidates are polling more than 5% in the polls, then three or more candidates will be engaging in debates.

No need for conspiracy theories.

All they have to do is pack the "town hall" meetings with NEA members like they did last time.

212 posted on 11/22/2005 5:24:25 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: af_vet_rr
...It's sad, but true, that in this country money does matter more.

Not in the voting booth, the guy who gets the most wins (excepting King County), doesn't matter if the other guy raised more money. If the GOP has this mentality it will bite them in the butt.
213 posted on 11/22/2005 5:27:12 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: traderrob6
Okay, so you would vote for someone totally simpatico with your beliefs with no chance of being elected

Nothing in this world is certain, except death, and that includes elections. I don't follow the polls or group-think. I vote for whoever I feel would do the best job. Not because others tell me someone may or may be popular or electable. It's that simple. I am a very independent minded person and generally don't allow others to do my thinking for me. I am not swayed by polls or anyone else when it comes to my vote.

214 posted on 11/22/2005 5:27:52 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
I got a broken clock that is right a couple of times a day too.
Anybody that is saying that the President is conspiruring with another nation to destroy America ain`t playing with a full deck. Anybody that does that and uses that nonsense to raise money, well, there is a name for that too.
215 posted on 11/22/2005 5:33:41 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: traderrob6
Okay, so you would vote for someone totally simpatico with your beliefs with no chance of being elected before voting for someone with some but not all your beliefs that had an excellent chance of being elected.....have I got that right?

Hey, I resemble that remark...

Good ole' Ross claimed that if the people that wanted him to win would have voted for him he would have been President...

Tancredo is as conservative on ALL THE ISSUES as anyone in the country...And if Bush and Kerry are qualified to run the country, then who isn't??? Anyone is electable, if we will just vote for him/her...

And I will vote for Tancredo...How about you???

216 posted on 11/22/2005 5:33:56 PM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: af_vet_rr
He won't get out of the gates. The mainstream GOP and the mainstream media will both ignore him, which leaves his campaign DOA.

Horse vomit. Tancredo doesn't need the GOP establishment or the liberal media. Grassroots (i.e. individuals) supply most of the money to real conservative Republicans anyway, and who cares about Big Media when you have FR and the blogs.

Tancredo has a right to run for Presidency, and I for one will definetly support him, among thousands of other conservatives who are sick and tired of the bones tossed to us from the GOP.

217 posted on 11/22/2005 5:38:12 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (JOE WILSON IS A MUTHAFAKING LIAR)
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To: bybybill

It's a matter of record that recently the Council on Foreign Relations went before Congress pushing this very agenda...And it's a matter of record that most Congress Critters as well as most all Administration staff members including Condo Rice and Dick Chaney are members of the Council on Foreign Relations...

I wish you were correct but the evidence points the other way...


218 posted on 11/22/2005 5:41:27 PM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: The Old Hoosier; B4Ranch; taxed2death; 7beuties; who_would_fardels_bear; dagnabbit; ...
The Old Hoosier: "Brownback and Allen are serious candidates, Tancredo is not very bright and he has a penchant for coming unhinged. I'll never understand how the guy made it to Congress."

Penchant for coming unhinged? As compared to McCain? I'll take the former teacher over the hacks every time.

Mike in Iraq: "Or any books that he or Buchanan will write. Don Quixote is alive and well..."

Thanks Mike who's no longer in Iraq. You've bought into the sock-puppet thing; noted. I met a guy who had no strings attached and continued to survive despite his Party cutting him off. He does this because he believes in what he's doing over what he's told. Soldiers who never question orders are fodder, Mike. So glad you escaped having to do so and thank you for your service.

Calrighty: Another misconception is illegals are only doing the work Americans are unwilling to do. Every time Bush utters this LIE I wanna puke! Tell that to the 250,000 white/black/brown middle class American construction workers who lost their family livelihood to illegals.

Truth be told the illegals have stolen all the "starter jobs" that youth of all races used to begin with. If any young person dares to attempt to get those jobs now they'll find an entrenched cadre of illegals there willing to sabotage and ruin his or her efforts as a matter of course, SOP. Another reason to kick the whole bunch out if we can shut their equally corrupt defenders up (and bring them up on long-earned charges).

Constantine XIII: The Conservative Party is the group that the Republicans should fear, as all true Conservatives are far better represented by them than a party that has betrayed Lincoln, Eisenhower and Reagan. It's true...it's damn true. Neocons are Liberals in disguise.

Barney Gumble: Did you know that many hispanics who come legally aren't exactly thrilled with illegal immigration either?! Do you honestly think a Hispanic that came legally, dealt with all the red tape, is going to vote for you because you turn a blind eye to illegal immigration? Do you think that Hispanic who now pays taxes, is going to love dolling out money for illegal healthcare and such? Why are Republicans heads in the sand over illegal immigration? Also a note: illegals can't (or shouldn't) vote anyway. So why are you pandering to a crowd that can't vote for you.

Barney just pointed at blatent corruption at the expense of our future. Anyone care to defend it?

Danabbit: The future is always yet to be written. You think long and hard but don't seem to factor positive trends. Humans have to hope or just suicide. Dagnabbit.

who_would_fardels_bear: Unlike the Democrat Platform, the Republican's will not support fisting. LOL!

Mulch: Either way, Tancredo will be wielding quite a bit of power over the election. People who want illegals deported, and thats about 99% of Americans, will vote for whoever Tancredo supports.

constipation party: 7beuties: True a few years ago, now people are angry.

Taxed2Death: Seeing that the CFR spells our assurred doom - too right. Only fools sign a suicide pact.

While I and most evryone else here agree with you we have to entertain the factions who still believe that we still trust this administration's goals. Don't carp about lowered wages, outsourced manufacturing and sweet deals for Communist countries. Look the other way while Americans of lesser skills are systematically displaced by illegal aliens for half the cost, unmindingly weakening the very infrastructure of our formerly proud nation.

I call out this batch of Neo-Conservative Republicans as outright traitors seeking to sell out any hope of their progeny's future success by squandering all available capital for their short-term enrichment. I say these people are scum who should be outed and strung up for their organized pillaging in the name of Conservatism. They have damaged the Republican name beyond redemption...we must insure that the general public knows that these criminals have nothing to do with Conservatives. This is why I say all true Conservatives need to back the Constitution Party now. The current Republican Party has indulged in so much wrong-doing that those of us who still believe in a God have to let them go. They didn't have to ape the Democrats nor sell out their base...yet they chose that path.

And despite Tancredo's support from Buchanon's sister one has to note that she supports Tom's agenda far more than her brother's. That's clean to me.

"America, **** Yeah!"

219 posted on 11/22/2005 5:42:46 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Yeah, I'm talking to you.)
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To: raybbr
"You guys having fun talking to each other?"

They're waiting for Dane...

220 posted on 11/22/2005 5:45:02 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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