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To: chronic_loser
In fact, her parents had shut down their internet service b/c of inappropriate activity on the part of their daughter.

Good, but too late.

There is no evidence this ever happened.

Sorry, but Kara referred to it in her blog. Her friends also have said that it was going on.

In reality, the reason I myself am not dead over some whack job like this is God's mercy to me and my daughters, not because I was a "good enough" parent.

You're setting up a false dichotomy between "God's mercy" and "being a good enough parent". There's no dichotomy. Part of God's mercy is setting you up as the parent over your child. Discussing how best to carry out that task does not demean or diminish His role, nor does it imply that you can somehow do it without his help.

Kids are not coke machines that guarantee a good product if you can just insert the right combination. It is a myth to think you can find that combo. Rather, you do your best

Yes -- my point is precisely to discuss what "do your best" is, in concrete terms.

120 posted on 11/22/2005 10:47:20 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Campion
You're setting up a false dichotomy between "God's mercy" and "being a good enough parent"

You really don't understand what I am saying, but an internet bb won't do as a forum. Let me just wish you the very best and the abundance of God's mercy as you raise you own children.

As for me, sometimes I wonder why I find it easier to talk to the godless about grace than those in the church. I think it is that the godless have not had the experience of convincing themselves that "now we are doing it the right way" that I find so prevalent in Christendom. As for my part, I can understand why Jesus felt more at home with drunks, whores, and crooks than with the religiously devout. They knew they needed grace, they were just afraid to let go of their props to trust it. The religious tend to think that "grace" is the wrapped up in the ability to do it right with God's help now that we pay attention to the rule book. Been there, done that. I prefer the statement by Martyn Lloyd Jones where he said that "unless you are charged with antinomianism by the religious, you have never really preached grace."

Anyway, I hope it works out for you and your children bring you years of happiness and contentment.

125 posted on 11/22/2005 11:00:38 AM PST by chronic_loser (Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.)
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